Anthu akuyandikira pafupi kufa kwawo Nkhondo ya Planet wa anyani, filimu yachitatu mu Planet ya Apes yambitsaninso mndandanda. Okonza za chiwonongeko cha anthu, ndi kupitiriza kukwera kwa anyani ku ulamuliro wadziko lonse, ndi otsogolera. Matt Reeves ndi screenwriter Mark Bomback, omwe mgwirizano wawo unayamba ndi 2014 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Kwa Bomback ndi Reeves, chovuta, komanso chisangalalo, cholumikiza mndandanda wa prequel ku filimu yoyambirira ya 1968, sizitengera chidziwitso cha zomwe ziti zichitike koma m'malo mwake ndi chifukwa chiyani.

Mu Juni, ndidakhala ndi mwayi wolankhula ndi Bomback za momwe iye ndi Reeves adapangira zowonera Nkhondo ya Planet wa anyani ndi momwe filimu yoyamba yachitatu iyi ikulowera mu nthano za Apes.

DG: Mark, ndi zisankho zazikulu ziti zomwe inu ndi Matt munapanga musanalembe seweroli, malinga ndi momwe mumafunira kutenga filimu yachitatuyi?

MB: Kunena zowona, tisanakhale pansi kulemba, ine ndi Matt tinagwirizana kuti palibe chomwe chili pagome ponena za komwe nkhaniyo ingapite. Tinkadziwa, kuti, kaya nkhaniyo inali yotani, idalira pa Kaisara ndikumuyika panjira yomwe imamufikitsa kumalo omwe sitingathe kuwafufuza, koma idzapitirizabe kukula kwake kuchokera ku kusintha mwangozi kupita kudziko lina. mtsogoleri wa chitukuko chatsopano. Nthawi zambiri timanena kuti nkhanizi sizikhala zambiri za komwe akupita - tonse tikudziwa kuti zimatchedwa. Planet wa Apes, osati Planet of the Humans - koma momwe amafikira kumeneko.

DG: Kodi mkangano pakati pa anyani ndi anthu wasintha bwanji pakati pa mapeto a filimu yomaliza ndi chiyambi cha filimuyi, ndipo kodi Kaisara ndi anyani ena onse asintha bwanji?

MB: Chabwino filimu yatsopanoyi yakhazikitsidwa patatha zaka ziwiri Dawn, ndipo mwamsanga timafika pozindikira kuti pakapita nthaŵi anyaniwo akhala akumenya nkhondo pafupifupi nthaŵi zonse. Iwo amayenera kuthawira kunkhalango ndi kukamanga nyumba yatsopano yachinsinsi ya iwo okha. Anthu omwe akhala akumenyana nawo ndi ongobwera kumene kudziko la filimu yathu, atakumana nawo kumapeto kwa filimu yomaliza ndi munthu wa Gary Oldman. Iwo ndi ankhanza kwambiri kuposa adani aumunthu Dawn - awa onse ndi amuna ndi akazi ophunzitsidwa za usilikali omwe apanga khalidwe la "kupha kapena kuphedwa" kwa anyani, omwe amaumirira kuti aziwawona ngati nyama zolusa ngakhale pali umboni wotsutsa. Motsogozedwa ndi The Colonel, kwa omwe asitikaliwa ali ndi kudzipereka kwachipembedzo, amakhulupirira kuti ali pa ntchito yabwino yopulumutsa anthu. Kukangalika koteroko kungalole anthu kuchita nkhanza zamtundu uliwonse m’dzina la kuchita zimene amakhulupirira kuti n’zabwino kwambiri.
Pankhani ya chisinthiko cha anyani, anafunikira kuzoloŵera moyo m’nthaŵi yankhondo, monga ndanenera poyamba paja. Koma akwanitsanso kusinthika kukhala zamoyo. Mudzapeza kuti Kaisara walankhula momveka bwino, ndipo kulankhula kumawonjezereka pang’ono m’chinenero cha manja cha anyani. Iwo apitiriza kuphunzira tanthauzo la kukhala makolo ndi okwatirana ndi comrades-mu-manja; Ndikuganiza kuti mumamva kuzama kwambiri pazolumikizana zawo zonse.

DG: Mark, nditapita ku seti mu Disembala 2015, kanema wa Kaisara adandiwululira kuti Kaisara wataya umunthu wake. Funso: Kodi mungafotokoze bwanji za ubale wa Kaisara ndi anthu mufilimuyi, umunthu wake komanso mtundu weniweni wa anthu?

MB: Kulimbana kwa mkati mwa Kaisara ndi malingaliro ake pa anthu ndi chimodzi mwa zifukwa zomwe timamvera nkhondo unali udindo woyenera filimuyi - Kaisara ali pankhondo kwambiri ndi iyemwini. Kumbukirani, Kaisara ndiye nyani yekha amene ali ndi chikondi chenicheni kwa anthu, chifukwa cha mbiri yake ndi anthu monga Will ndi Malcolm ndi Ellie m'mafilimu akale. Komabe, pamene Nkhondo ikuyamba, Kaisara anali atatsala pang’ono kutaya chikhulupiriro chakuti anthu apitirizabe kukhala ndi makhalidwe abwino. Asilikaliwo akungokakamirabe. Ndipo posachedwa pachitika zochitika zomwe pamapeto pake zimakankhira Kaisara kumalo komwe amatsutsana ndi anthu kamodzi kokha. Kwa nthawi yoyamba, iye amamvetsa mmene chidani chenicheni chimakhalira, ndipo ndi ulendo wochititsa mantha kuchitira umboni.

DG: Mark, pamene Dawn of the Planet of the Apes inali filimu yonyansa kwambiri, Nkhondo ya Planet wa anyani yafotokozedwa ngati filimu yodziwika bwino yakumadzulo. Funso: Kodi mungafotokoze bwanji kukula ndi kamvekedwe ka filimuyi?

MB: Kukula kwake ndikokulirapo kuposa makanema am'mbuyomu - opambana kwambiri kuposa filimu iliyonse yomwe ndidagwirapo ntchito, kwenikweni. Ngati Kaisara wasankhidwa kukhala Mose wa anthu ake, ndiye kuti tidadziwa kuti tiyenera kuyesetsa kukankhira nthano, makonzedwe, ndi malingaliro ake ku malo ongopeka. Chinyengo chinali kupangitsa kuti ikhale yolumikizana ndi filimu yomaliza, komanso kupita kumalo akusesa, pafupifupi a m'Baibulo. Ponena za mutuwo, monga ndanenera poyamba, mutu wapakati mu filimuyi ndi nkhondo yomwe ili mkati mwathu tonse, kulimbana kosalephereka pakati pa kuyendetsa kupulumuka ndi kusunga kampasi yamakhalidwe abwino.

DG: Mark, mungafotokoze bwanji khalidwe la Woody Harrelson, Mtsamunda, ntchito yake, malingaliro ake, ndi zopinga zotani zomwe amaimira Kaisara mufilimuyi?

MB: Popanda kupereka zambiri, ndikunena kuti Mtsamunda ndi njira zambiri zopangira Kaisara. Iye ndi munthu amene walimbananso ndi mavuto ankhondo, ndipo pomalizira pake wasankha kusiya makhalidwe ake kuti aletse zimene amakhulupirira kuti mitundu yake idzatha. Adasinthika (kapena adasintha) kupita pamalo pomwe palibe chochita chomwe sichingakhululukidwe ngati zikutanthauza kupulumuka kwa anthu. Ndipo Kaisara amakayikira ngati kutsimikiza mtima kotereku kuli kofunikira kuti munthu apulumuke. Pansipa, pali pang'ono "kumeneko koma chisomo cha Mulungu chimapita kwa Kaisara" ku chikhalidwe cha Mtsamunda.

DG: Mark, kodi filimu yachitatuyi ikuyimira chiyani mu mndandanda wa prequel, ndipo nchiyani chimasiyanitsa filimuyi ndi mafilimu awiri apitawo, ndi mafilimu ena onse a Apes?

MB: Izi ndizovuta kuyankha osalowa m'gawo la spoiler. Ndingonena kuti filimuyi ndi gawo lofunikira kwambiri kudziko la 1968 loyambirira Planet wa a Apes kanema. Chomwe chimasiyanitsa, m'malingaliro mwanga, ndi chikhumbo cha kulongosola nkhani, ngakhale zozizwitsa zowonjezereka za machitidwe - ndipo ndithudi kuwala kwa ntchito ya mo-cap. Anthu a ku Weta adziposa nthawi ino. Ndizodabwitsa kwambiri.

DG: Chovuta chachikulu chomwe mudakumana nacho popanga filimuyi ndi chiyani, pofotokoza nkhaniyi?

MB: Chovuta chachikulu chinali kuwonetsetsa kuti filimuyi ikuwonetsa kupita patsogolo m'njira zonse. Pokhala pachiwopsezo chomveka chopanda ulemu, ndimakonda kwambiri Dawn, monganso anachitira Mat. Tinkadziwa bwino zinthu zina zomwe timalakalaka tikadakhala bwino, koma zonse zidayenda bwino zomwe zimandinyadira kwambiri. Titakhazikika kuti tipeze nkhani ya Nkhondo, ine ndi Matt tinagwirizana kuti ngati sitili otsimikiza kuti iyi ndi nkhani yabwinoko kuposa makanema onse awiri omwe adatsogolera, ndiye kuti sizinali zoyenera kunena. Msewu wopita ku mediocrity ndi wopakidwa ndi ma quels atatu omwe amaganiza kuti akhoza kungoyenda m'mphepete mwa nyanja, ndipo tinali ofunitsitsa kupewa izi. Tinatsimikiza mtima kukhala ofunitsitsa monga momwe tingathere, kusangalatsa malingaliro amisala aliwonse omwe tinali nawo ndi kupitadi kukasweka. Ndikukhulupirira kuti tapambana.

DG: Mark, ngati mlendo: Pangano idayimira kudumpha kwakukulu kwa Alien, malinga ndi mlendo mndandanda wa prequel, pali kuyandikira kotani pakati pa filimuyi ndi filimu ya 1968, yomwe, mongoyerekeza, kopita komaliza?

MB: Ndikuopa kuyankha kuti kungakhale kuyipitsa filimuyi. Pepani!

DG: Mark, zanenedwa kuti kutha kwa filimuyi kudzakhala kutha kokhutiritsa kwa mndandanda, ngati chisankho chikanapangidwa kuti asapange mafilimu ambiri. Funso: Kodi mukuvomerezana ndi izi, ndipo inu ndi Matt munakhazikitsa dongosolo lovuta la mafilimu ambiri, ndipo ngati munauzidwa kuti filimu yotsatira, filimu yachinayi mu mndandanda wa prequel, inalidi filimu yomaliza, yosangalatsa bwanji? , ndi kukonzekera, kodi mungakhale ndi vuto lothetsa nkhanizi?

DG: Gosh, sindikufuna kumveketsa bwino, koma ndikuwopa kuti sindine womasuka kuyankha kuti mwina kapena kungolingalira zomwe filimu kapena makanema otsatirawa angachite kapena sangathe. Zomwe ndinganene ndikuti ndi dziko lolemera kwambiri komanso lopatsa chidwi, ndipo ndakhala ndi mwayi wofufuza m'makanemawa mpaka pano.