Kelly: Chifukwa chake, pali mawu abwino ochokera kwa malemu Wes Craven; "Mafilimu owopsa samapanga mantha, amatulutsa". Ndinawerenga kuti mndandandawu cholinga chake ndikuwunika zovuta zam'magulu azomwe zikuchitika, ndiye mukuyembekeza kutulutsa mantha ndi magawo anu?

Cholembera-Ek: Sindikudziwa momwe ndingayankhire… Cholinga ndikusangalatsa, sindikuyesa kuwopseza, kapena kuyesa kuseka, kapena kuyeserera. Ndikuganiza kuti cholinga chake, ndikusangalatsa. Ndikuganiza kuti aliyense wa owongolera nawonso, akuyesera kuchita izi. ndikuganiza my cholinga ndikusangalatsa. Ngati mumaziwona ndikuganiza kuti ndizoseketsa, ndizabwino, kapena ngati mukuganiza kuti ndizowopsa, ndizabwino.

Koma chomwe chili chofunikira kwa ine, ndipo zomwe ndimapeza ndizolimba kwambiri panthawiyi ndikuti anthu aku Thailand, tili ndi malingaliro amtunduwu omwe nthawi zonse timadziona ngati onyozeka tikakumana ngati… azungu, mwachitsanzo [kuseka konse]. Timamva ngati sitili okwanira. Ndipo ndizofunikira kwambiri munkhani yanga.

Chiyambi cha mzimu ndikuti mukawopa anyamata oyera mukakhala ndi moyo, ndipo, mukudziwa, ndikutha kumvetsetsa. Koma sindimadziwa kuti ndikamwalira ndiziwopabe - ndikuganiza kuti ndizofunikira kwambiri munthawi yanga. Monga momwe tiyenera kusiya kudzimva kukhala osakwanira, kukhala otsika. Ndimawona kuti ndimakondadi anthu aku Thai, kuti tikungodzichepetsa kuti sitifika kulikonse [kuseka konse]. Za ine, ndi mkhalidwe wabwino kwambiri.

Kelly: Monga waku Canada, ndimaseka [kuseka konse]. Ndife aulemu kwambiri pazonse.

Chimodzi mwazinthu zomwe ndimakonda kwambiri pazomwe a Pen-Ek adatsogolera ndikuti kusamvana pakati pa wabizinesi waku Western yemwe amabwera ndipo samadziwa za izi ndi zikhalidwe, komanso zomwe akutsutsana nazo, kwenikweni. Ndizosangalatsa kuwona kusamvana komwe mzimu ukuyesera kuchita zomwe zikuwakhumudwitsa - kukhala mzukwa, ndipo wakumadzulo uyu ndi osati pokhala nawo [kuseka].

Cholembera-Ek: Koma ndi gawo langa, komanso, kupatula kupanga kanema wowopsa, tinkasekanso makanema oopsa nthawi yomweyo. Kulumpha kumawopsa ndi zonsezi, bafa ija yokhala ndi chimbudzi chowoneka bwino mchipatala ... palibe chimbudzi chomwe chimawoneka choncho! Kanema wowopsa yekha! [oseka]

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Eric: Ndipo chimodzi mwazinthu zomwe ndimakonda kwambiri pazomwezi ndi wojambula zithunzi. Ndimakonda ntchitoyi. Mumamumvera kwambiri. Mu mphindi 48, amatha kulumikiza malingaliro osiyanasiyana mgawolo.

Za ine, chifukwa mzimu womwe ndimatchulidwazi umachokera ku Pontianak, komwe kunachokera ndikuti ndimayi yemwe adamwalira (ali ndi pakati), kenako amabweranso. Ndipo ndimaganiza kuti zingakhale zosangalatsa ... m'mafilimu ngati mizukwa yoopsa yaku Japan, kapena zilizonse, mutha kumvera chisoni mzimuwo. Kapena ngati kanema uja, Mwana Wamasiye.

Sindinkafuna kupanga china chake chomwe chinali "pankhope panu"; Ndinkafuna kupanga china chake chomwe chinali chowopsa pang'ono. Kwa ine, protagonist wamkulu anali Pontianak, ndipo ndidaganiza zopanga mtsikana wachinyamata. Chifukwa chake mumakonzanso pang'ono, ndipo ndi msungwana wachichepere, chifukwa chake ndizokhudza umunthu - momwe ndimaonera - chifukwa cha izo.

Nkhani yanga iwonetsedwa ku Sitges ndi nkhani yaku Japan ya Takumi Saitoh, ndipo a Pen-Ek anali ku TIFF ndimagawo a Joko Anwar (Indonesia). Ndipo pali Fantastic Fest yomwe idzakhale nkhani yaku Korea yolembedwa ndi Lee Sang-Woo, ndi Ho Yuhang waku Malaysia, yomwe ikunena za mzimu wamwana.

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Kelly: Ndime ziwiri zoyambirira zomwe ndidaziwona (ku TIFF) ndizabwino, ndimakonda kuti aliyense amabweretsa chikhalidwe chawo pankhaniyi.

Eric: Sindinakhulupirire kuti ndili ndi anyamata onsewa kuti achite, sichoncho? Kunena zowona kwathunthu, sindimadziwa zomwe ndikapange ndikuseka [kuseka konse]. Nditawona kudula koyamba, ndidazikonda kwambiri. Ndimawakonda onse! Ndimangowakonda onse. Za ine, zili monga choncho. Ndizosangalatsa, mukudziwa? Ndikumva ngati tingagwirizane kwambiri ku Asia… zingakhale zosangalatsa kwambiri.

Cholembera-Ek: Ndimasilira Eric, chifukwa ntchito yamtunduwu, mtundu uwu wa projekiti yonse ... sagwira ntchito! [akuseka] Chifukwa ndi ntchito zina, owongolera omwe akuyesera kuzichita… akuwoneka kuti sakuzilingalira. Amangopanga kanema wowopsa.

Koma izi, monga… si ntchito ya theka la ola, zimakhala ngati kanema wowopsa, mukudziwa? Mukapitanso mphindi makumi awiri, muli ndi kanema. Ndipo muyenera kuzilingalira mozama, chifukwa ngati izi sizingakhale ndi nyama yokwanira. Chifukwa chake ndikuganiza kuti ndili ndi mbiri yabwino kwa Eric chifukwa mumapeza chidwi chanu. Makanema ena a omnibus, owongolera amangotenga ngati ntchito ina. Ndipo sizigwira ntchito.

Eric: Tinadzipereka kwambiri kuchokera kwa woyang'anira aliyense.

Kelly: Eric, adawapeza bwanji owongolera awa?

Eric: Ndinawadziwa! Ndipo ndimafuna kugwira nawo ntchito, chifukwa chake ndidati "ndidziwitseni", ndipo ndidangokhala, kenako tonse tidayamba kugwira ntchito.

Kelly: Ndipo ndizodabwitsa kuti akubweretsa zikhalidwe zawo momwemo kuti aziyimira mbiri yawo ndikubweretsa nkhanizi patsogolo.

Eric: Monga gawo lachijapani, achi Japan amakhulupirira mzimu waudzu, ndipo sindimadziwa za izo! Kotero ndizabwino, mukudziwa? Ndipo nkhani yaku Korea ndi yokhudza mnyamata ndipo - mukamwalira muli namwali, mudzakhala obwezera, ndipo mufuna mkazi. Ndipo ma Koreya amakhulupirira Shamanism ... ma voodoo ambiri…

Kelly: Monga momwe Kulira -

Eric: Kuliraeya! Pali zambiri zomwe zimapita kumbuyo kwake. Maubale ambiri achi Japan amalumikizana ndi Shinto. Ndipo amakhulupirira kuti mukamwalira imfa yopweteka, mudzakhala mdziko lapansi chifukwa chakwiya kapena kumva chisoni. Pali malingaliro ambiri omwe mumawawona ochokera ku Japan Buddhism, Shintoism, and Taoism… akuphatikiza zikhulupiriro ndi nkhani zawo. Monga The mphete vs Dandaulo. ndipo tsiku lomwe adamenya nkhondo! Ndili ndi zoseweretsa [kuseka].

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