Monga wotsogolera wa Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa, Jay Baruchel anali ndi zambiri zokumana nazo. Pogwira ntchito m'makampani kuyambira ali ndi zaka 12, adaphunzira kuchokera kwa owongolera monga David Cronenberg ndi Clint Eastwood, ndipo adazindikira bwino zomwe zingapangitse (kapena kuswa) kanema.

Ndinakhala pansi ndi Jay kuti tikambirane za kanema wake waposachedwa kwambiri, zomwe zachitika muzochita zowopsa, komanso ena mwamakanema ake owopsa.

Kwa gawo limodzi la zokambirana zathu pa Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa, Dinani apa.

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Kelly McNeely: Chifukwa chake, mwakhala mukuchita nawo malonda kwanthawi yayitali kuyambira Mankhwala Otchuka a Ana, koma izi zakuthandizani bwanji ndi zonse zomwe mwakumana nazo ngati director ndipo mwaphunzira chiyani kupyola muzochitika zonsezi? 

Jay Baruchel: Chilichonse. Ndipo zonse zomwe ndimadziwa za makanema ndizomwe zimakhazikitsidwa kuyambira ndili mwana kapena kuwonera makanema. Tsiku langa loyamba pa seti, ndinali ndi zaka 12. Ndipo ngakhale pomwe ndidayamba pamenepo, amayi anga adandiuza, chabwino, ufuna kukhala director. Chidwi changa mu kanema sichinabwere chifukwa chofuna kusewera. Ndi njira ina yozungulira. Ndinakhala wosewera chifukwa zimandilola kukhala pafupi ndi kanema.

Ndipo kotero ndili ndi zaka 12, ndipo amayi anga adandiuza, mukudziwa, mukufuna kupita kusukulu yamafilimu pamapeto pake, muyenera kudikirira mpaka mutakwanitsa zaka 18. Koma muli ndi mwayi tsopano wokhala mufilimu yabwino kwambiri sukulu mdziko lapansi, zomwe ndizochitikira ndikungoziwona kuchokera kumatumbo. Nthawi zonse ndimakhala chinkhupule. Chifukwa chake kuyambira tsiku langa loyamba mtsogolo, ndimakonda kwambiri, mukudziwa, mulungu wamkazi wa cinema, ndipo ndimayamwa chilichonse chomwe ndikadatha, ndimasankha ubongo uliwonse womwe ndingathe.

Ndipo zabwino ndizoyang'ana m'mbuyo ngati mwana wazaka 12/13 wazaka zoyambira pazinthu izi, ambiri mwa ogwira ntchito, anali achikulire m'malingaliro mwanga nthawi imeneyo. Koma poyang'ana m'mbuyo, akanakhala ocheperako kuposa momwe ndili pano, 23-24, sukulu yakanema yatsopano. Chifukwa chake malingaliro awo onse ndi zokonda zawo zidali zatsopano komanso zosiyanasiyana. Ndipo kotero pa 12-13 ndinawona momwe makanema amapangidwira. Koma ndiyenera kukhala pafupi ndi gulu la magawo 20 omwe angotuluka kumene kusukulu yamafilimu omwe amafuna kundidyetsa zoyipa zomwe aphunzira. Ndipo ndiwo malo owoneka bwino, olimbikitsa kuyambira. 

Komanso, ndidzakhala wowona mtima, m'zaka 20 kuphatikiza ndikukhala ndekha, ndikuganiza kuti mwina ndakhala pafupifupi theka la khumi mpaka khumi omwe agwira bwino ntchito. Monga pali mafakitale amtundu wa chisokonezo cholamulidwa, koma amawongoleredwa motayirira kwambiri. Koma palinso - ndipo ndinena izi - kuti kuwongolera ndi… ndingayike bwanji izi? Pali anthu omwe amalephera kupitilira. Ndipo chifukwa chakuti ndiwe wochititsa, chifukwa ntchito yako ndikukhala ndi chibadwa ndi malingaliro, ndipo munthu wina aliyense payekhapayekha amabwera kwa iwe, sichoncho?

Zomwe zikutanthawuza ndikuti, ngati ndinu munthu amene alibe kudzoza, zikuvuta kuti muzinamize, chifukwa aliyense nthawi zonse amakuwonetsani zosankha. Sindingakuuzeni kangati momwe ndimakhala wosewera yemwe ndakhala ndikuchulukirapo pomwe zidawonekeratu kuti wotsogolera analibe chibadwa chilichonse pazomwe timafuna kuchita. Chifukwa chake anthu awa - nthawi iliyonse - amaganiza kuti kukhala ndi gulu lonse lantchito ndi gulu lanu ngati sandbox yokhala ndi ma GI Joes oyenda ndi magalimoto mmenemo, kuti mwanjira inayake muyenera kulimbikitsidwa ndikukhala ndi chibadwa.

Uku kukuwoneka ngati kutenga kwakukulu, kuti ambiri aiwo amabwera osadziwa kuti ndichiyani ndipo tikukhulupirira kuti tidzawapeza. Ndipo ngati simukudziwa zomwe mukufuna, ndipo zonse zomwe mukuchoka ndi zomwe sizikukuyenderani kapena zomwe simukufuna, ndipamene mumafika kumpoto kwa 7, 10, 12, 15 kumatenga, komanso kosowa ndiye kudzoza komwe kumapulumuka, ndikuganiza.

Ndipo ma seti abwino kwambiri omwe ndidakhalapo, patali kwambiri, patali kwambiri, ndikadakhala ambuye awiri omwe ndili ndi mwayi wogwirapo ntchito, anali David Cronenberg ndi Clint Eastwood. Maseti awo anali ofanana chimodzimodzi, chifukwa anali masomphenya omwe adagawana nawo omwe adafotokozedwa momveka bwino. Tsopano mwachiwonekere mumasiya malo kuti mufufuze ndikufufuza, ndipo ziribe kanthu kuti chinthucho ndi chiyani, zomwe zili papepala sizikhala zomwe mumapanga. Koma ngati, mukudziwa zomwe mukuyesera kunena, sichoncho? Ndipo kotero aliyense pagulu lililonse adadziwa zomwe kanema amayesera kunena. Aliyense pagulu lililonse amasangalala kukhala pamenepo. Aliyense pagulu lililonse amamva kuti zala zawo zidali mufilimuyo. Chifukwa chake aliyense amagwira ntchito kuchokera komwe amakonda, komanso, palibe kupsinjika ndi nkhawa.

Chifukwa chinthu cha Eastwood ndikuti ngati ndikulemba ntchito, ndichifukwa choti mutha kugwira ntchitoyi. Ndakulemba ntchito. Chifukwa chake sindikusowa kuti ndikhale ndi nkhawa. Sindikusowa kuyang'anira. Bweretsani - monga momwe ena onse amabweretsera - ndipo tonse ndife abwino, ndipo sitiyenera kuchita zambiri mobwerezabwereza. Ndipo sitiyenera kuchita zoposa zitatu, ndipo titha kufika kunyumba molawirira. Palibe amene amafika kunyumba mofulumira! Koma pa makanema onse awiriwa, ndidanyamuka molawirira, ndipo adamaliza molawirira! Million Dollar Baby wamaliza ngati masiku awiri patsogolo pa nthawi, zomwe sizikumveka kuti kanema wamkulu chonchi!

Ndipo kotero ndimakhala ngati, ndicho chinthu chonsecho. Onetsetsani kuti aliyense akumva kuti izi ndi zawo, kuti tonse tili mgulu limodzi. Palibe amene adzakhale pachiwopsezo chachikulu monga ine. Koma chilichonse chomwe chingakhale chabwino, ndicho chomwe ndikufuna kuti aliyense amve. Ndikufuna kuti amve kuti atha kupereka lingaliro lililonse kwa ine. Chifukwa - panjira - ngati aliyense akumva kuti angathe kutulutsa lingaliro lililonse kwa ine, zikutanthauza kuti akugwiradi ntchito kuchokera kumalingaliro oyera, omwe pazojambula, monga kanema, zitha kungokhala zabwino. Komanso zowonjezerapo, ndawona zitsanzo zambiri - zitsanzo zochulukirapo - zomwe zomwe wotsogolera sayenera kuchita. Ndipo chimenecho ndichinthu champhamvu chowongolera nawonso.

Kelly McNeely: Ndi nkhanza zankhanza kwambiri mu Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa, ndiko kusiyana pang'ono ndi zomwe anthu amayembekezera kwa inu. Zowopsa ndizachidziwikire kuti ndi zokonda zanu, mungapange kanema wina wowopsa? Zinali zofunikira bwanji kuti inu mukhale ndi zotsatira zenizeni? Ndipo mudapanga bwanji zotsatirazi ngati katatu, mudapanga bwanji malingaliro amenewo?

Jay Baruchel: Inde, limenelo ndi funso lalikulu. Um, eya, mwamtheradi mu kugunda kwa mtima. Ndikufuna kuthera moyo wanga wonse ndikupanga makanema owopsa kapena makanema othandiza. Ndipo zomwe ndidazindikira ndikuti ndikufuna kuthera moyo wanga wonse ndikupanga makanema ankhondo, chifukwa makanema ankhondo onsewo, ndiyeno ena… kwambiri mtundu uliwonse wazolowera. Ndipo ndikamakula, ndimalephera kuwona zowona mu kanema aliyense yemwe si kanema wankhondo. Koma inde, ndikadatero. Ine ndikanakhala ndithudi mu kugunda kwa mtima. 

Pali tepi yapa vidiyo kwinakwake kunyumba kwa amayi anga ndili ndi zaka 7 - ndinati ndikufuna kukhala director zaka 9 - koma ndili ndi zaka 7 pali vidiyo yomwe ndikunena kwa mayi anga, ku kamera, ndikulemba Nkhani zowopsa kotero kuti zimawopseza Stephen King kuchokera mu kabudula wa mkati mwake. Ndipo kotero, ndakhala ndikusangalala ndi zoyipa kuyambira ndili mwana, ndipo ndimabwera moona mtima kuchokera kwa okonda makanema awiri.

Amayi anga ndi abambo anga nthawi zonse amandipatsa Kanema 101, ndipo nthawi zonse tinkangoyang'ana - makamaka ngati tiwona china chake chofunikira - mayi anga adandifotokozera chifukwa chomwe Hitchcock ndiwokayikira komanso tanthauzo lake mtundu wa makanema omwe adapanga, zomwe zidandipangitsa kuti ndiyambe kukonda kwambiri mwamunayo ndili mwana. Chifukwa chake ndimakonda izi. Ndipo ndayesera kudziwa chifukwa chake.

Ndikuganiza kuti ndichifukwa chomwe ndimakondera punk, mafakitale, ndi chitsulo, chomwe ndichifukwa choti ndichachindunji, ndipo chimadutsa zoyipa zambiri zomwe ndimawona kuti ndizopanda mapepala. Ndizachindunji, zowona, ndi mankhwala amphamvu, ndipo mafani ake ndi achipembedzo ndipo sapeza chikondi kuchokera kwa anzeru. Kotero ichi ndiye zoyipa zomwe ndiyenera kuyang'ana, ichi ndi zoyipa zomwe ndikufuna kupanga. 

Potengera kufunikira kwake kwa zinthu zopangira: zofunika kwambiri. Za ine ndi ntchito [ya Roberto] Bava ndi a John Carpenter chinthu. Ndicho chimake cha pamwamba, ndipo china chirichonse ndi yankho kwa icho, kuyesayesa kuibwezeretsanso, ndi chokhazikitsidwa kuchokera pamenepo. Chithunzi cha zithunzi zopangidwa ndi makompyuta ndi - monga ndodo iliyonse - ndi yolumala, pamapeto pake, yomwe timadalira kwambiri.

Koma mwachiwonekere pali malo ake; pali zithunzi zopangidwa ndi makompyuta mu Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa, kuwonjezera pazinthu zodziwika bwino monga makanema ojambula, koma pali zinthu zomwe tidachita, mukudziwa, kuwonjezera mvula pang'ono apa ndi apo, ndikuwonjezera tsamba pano. Pali nyumba yake, koma kuti ikwaniritse zonse zomwe mwapanga, zomwe zikupereka mwayi wambiri pakukongoletsa kwa ine. Mwa njira, sindingathenso kutchula kanema ndi CGI yomwe ndimakonda, sichoncho? Koma ndikhoza kutchula gulu la zidutswa zopangira zomwe ndikuganiza kuti ndi zaluso kwambiri. Se7en, palibe chofanana ndi zoyipa zimenezo, zinthuzo ndizojambula zenizeni. 

Chimodzi mwazinthu zabwino zokhala ndimabizinesi omwewo kuyambira ndili mwana ndikuti mumayamba kupanga zibwenzi ndikuphunzira, mumatha kufunsa anthu omwe munkagwira nawo ntchito muli mwana, monga , kumbukirani inu monga mwana wamanjenje yemwe amafunsa mafunso ambiri. Chifukwa chake gulu lomwe lidachita zovuta zonse, ndi chaka chathunthu, anali Paul Jones. Jones nayenso anachita zinthu zambiri mkati Goon: Wotsiriza wa Enforcers, kuphatikiza nkhonya yomwe imamuthyola kumaso ndikutuluka mano ambiri, ndiye mphasa yake yosweka, ndizo zoyipa zomwe Paulo adachita.

Ngati mumalemba google Paul Jones, muwona Kuyipa kokhala nako ndi chirichonse, chirichonse. Ndipo ndidagwira ntchito ndi mnyamatayo ndili ngati 18-19, ndipo timagwirizana kwambiri. Tidangogawana zokonda za nerdy - ana a Fangoria, chabwino - inde, ndinali mwana weniweni, anali wazaka 20. Chifukwa chake ndikapeza nthawi yopanga kanema wanga wowopsa, ngakhale zaka zambiri zosewerera - zaka khumi kuphatikiza - pambuyo pake ndikuti, Hei, Paul, ungakhale ndi zoyipa? Ndipo ndizo zabwino kwambiri. Ndicho chinthu chosangalatsa kwambiri. Chimodzi mwazinthu zosangalatsa kwambiri pa kanema ndikupeza anthu onsewa pamodzi, ndikuti aliyense akhale kupanikizana basi. 

Chifukwa chake ndikudziwa zomwe ndikufuna - komanso zomwe ndikuganiza ndikufuna ngati director and co-wolemba - Karim amadziwa zomwe akufuna komanso zomwe akuganiza kuti akufuna ngati DP. Paul ali ndi malingaliro ngati wopanga yekha, ndipo Michelle Lannon, wopanga wathu, Linda Muir, wopanga zovala zathu, ndipo tonse timakondana, ndipo tonse timadyetsana. Ndipo lingaliro la winawake, monga, "o, zitha kukhala zabwino chifukwa zikugwirizana ndi chinthu china chomwe tikuyesera kuchita", "o, fuwa, ndizoona, ndizoona chifukwa titha kuchita izi, sichoncho?" Ndiyeno timayamba kupeza zomwe timaganiza kuti denga lathu m'chipinda chathu chapansi ndilopusa, momwe timafunira opusa, momwe timaloledwera kupenga, pamwamba pake, tikufuna kudziwa - ngati - blah, blah , blah.

Ndiyeno timangokhala ngati timamvetsetsa ndikuzindikira izi, ndiyeno zonsezo ndizofanana, ndiye kuti ndi masomphenya amodzi omwe timagawana nawo, kenako timapita kumeneko kukawombera mayi wankhanzayo. Ndipo eya, ndikofunikira kuti ikhale yothandiza monga momwe anthu angathere, ndipo izi zimaphatikizaponso moto wathu, sichoncho? Tinayikitsadi nyumba ija. Ndi ntchito yolemetsa, amuna. Chifukwa chake, kulikonse komwe zingatheke, khalani othandiza, ndipo pitani ndi zofunikira zotsutsana ndi digito, komanso dziwani kuti tidzafunika thandizo la digito mtsogolo muno.

Kelly McNeely: Ndimakonda lingaliro loti aliyense abwere palimodzi - ojambula osiyanasiyana - chifukwa zimakhala ngati mukapeza oimba ambiri abwino kuti apange jazz kapena china chake. Ndilo lingaliro lomwelo, mukupanga nyimbo zomwe zimangogwira ntchito.

Jay Baruchel: Ndichoncho! Ndipo palibe cholakwika chilichonse, ndi malingaliro chabe omwe adzapulumuke ndi ena omwe sangatero, chifukwa ngati lingaliro silolakwika, ndiye kuti woyimba gitala azikhala pamutu pake nthawi ina adzafuna kulingalira za china chake. Pakadali pano ndikufuna aliyense apange chilichonse chomwe chingabwere m'mutu. Ngati nditha kuigwiritsa ntchito, sichinthu china, koma ndikufuna kuti muzimasuka, ndipo ndikufuna kuti muzimva umwini chifukwa ndikudziwa kuti musinthana ndi mipanda.

Pitani pansi kuti mupitilize Tsamba 2 la mayankho amakanema a Jay

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