Takashi Miike wakhala dzina lanyumba la mafani amakanema amtundu. Ndi maudindo opitilira 100 pansi pa lamba wake - kuphatikiza Ichi the Killer, Audition, 13 Assassins, One Missed Call, Gozu, ndi Sukiyaki Western Django - Miike wakhala akuwongolera osayima pafupifupi zaka 30.

Posachedwa ndidakhala ndi mwayi wokhala m'modzi m'modzi ndi Miike kutsatira kuwonetsa kanema wake waposachedwa, choyamba Chikondi, pa Chikondwerero cha Mafilimu ku Toronto.

Khalani usiku umodzi ku Tokyo, choyamba Chikondi amatsatira Leo, wolemba nkhonya wachinyamata pa mwayi wake pamene akukumana ndi 'chikondi chake choyamba' Monica, mtsikana wochita zachiwerewere komanso woledzera koma wosalakwa. Leo sakudziwa, Monica sakudziwika kuti akugwira ntchito yozembetsa mankhwala osokoneza bongo, ndipo awiriwa akutsatiridwa usiku wonse ndi wapolisi woipa, yakuza, nemesis wake, ndi wakupha wamkazi wotumizidwa ndi Chinese Triads. Zotengera zawo zonse zimalumikizana mmaonekedwe owoneka bwino a Miike, pachisangalalo chake chosangalatsa kwambiri.

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Kelly McNeely: Ndiye chiyambi chanji cha choyamba Chikondi? Kodi kanemayu adachokera kuti?

Takashi Miike: Chifukwa chake zonsezi zidayamba kuchokera pamalingaliro opanga mtundu wa kanema womwe posachedwa wapatsidwa mwayi wofupikitsa pamakampani opanga mafilimu aku Japan. Kalelo, titha kujambula mitundu yamakanema amtunduwu kuti tithandizire makanema. Ndipo ndili ndi lingaliro kuchokera ku Mafilimu a Toei kuti abweretse chinthu chotere, chofanana ndi, a Wakufa kapena Wamoyo, mtundu wa kanema wa B-cinema.

Ndinali wokondwa kwambiri ndi izi, chifukwa posachedwa, makampani opanga makanema ambiri amatsutsana ndi chilichonse chomwe chingakhale mtundu wamakanema. Amakhala pachiwopsezo chachikulu, ndipo akuyesera kupita m'mafilimu onse azamalonda awa. Ndipo kotero pamene ndinalandira izi, ndimaganiza, O, ndizabwino. Ndikutanthauza, sindimayembekezera kuti ndilandila zopempha ngati izi kuchokera ku kampani yayikulu yopanga makanema. Ndipo kotero ine ndimaganiza, chabwino, ine ndiyenera kuchita izi ndiye. Chifukwa chake lingaliroli linali loti lizigwira ntchito potengera lingaliro loyambirira - zolemba zoyambirira. Chifukwa chake ndidayamba kugwira ntchito ndi wolemba script, ndi momwe filimuyo idachitikira.

Kelly McNeely: Tsopano, mwachiwonekere muli ndi ntchito yochuluka kwambiri, ndipo mwachita mitundu yambiri yamafilimu; mtundu wanyimbo, zochita, nthabwala, makanema am'banja, masewero anyengo… Kodi pali mtundu winawake wamtundu womwe mumakonda kwambiri?

Takashi Miike: Zowona, sindine amene sindikudziwa za mitundu, ndi malire amtundu, pa se. Muli ndi chidutswa cha nthawi, sichoncho? Muli ndi kanema wa Yakuza, muli ndi kanema wa ana, ndipo pali magulu okhwima ngati awa masiku ano. Koma sizinali choncho. Ndipo ndimawonabe zinthu kudzera pa fyuluta yam'mbuyomu, sichoncho, komwe ikhoza kukhala kanema wa Yakuza, komabe ndi nthabwala, sichoncho? Kapenanso itha kukhala chiwonetsero cha ana ndipo itha kukhala yowawa, mutha kukhala pamaliro ndipo wina wanena zinazake, ndipo aliyense adayamba kuseka. Chifukwa cha ine, zonse zasokonezeka.

Koma chomwe ndikufunika kwambiri ndikuti mitu yonseyi yomwe imatimangirira pamodzi. Monga komwe ndikupita, cholinga cha moyo wanga ndi chiyani, imfa ndi chiyani? Kwa ine, chimwemwe ndi chiyani? Ndingakhale wachimwemwe? Kodi ndingakhale bwanji wosangalala ndikukhala wosangalala? Mitu yonseyi kwa ine, awa ndi mtedza ndi ma bolts omwe amapita mufilimu iliyonse yabwino, ndipo ndizofanana kwa ine ngakhale titakhala kuti tikukamba za mtundu wanji. Ndipo kotero - kwa ine - kanema wabwino amapitilira kapena samangidwa ndi malire amtunduwo.

Kelly McNeely: choyamba Chikondi Ali ndi nthabwala zabwino kwambiri - ndizoseketsa - komanso zochita zambiri zosangalatsa. Ndipo pali mndandanda wazotsatira. Kodi chiwonetsero cha anime chija chidachokera kuti, lingaliro lobweretsa izo?

Takashi Miike: Ndakhala ndi makanema angapo m'mbuyomu omwe asintha modzidzimutsa kuchoka pa zochita zamakanema kupita ku anime, kapena kuchoka pazoyeserera mpaka kuumba dothi, mwachitsanzo. Chifukwa chake tikugwira ntchito ndi zovuta za bajeti, tikugwira ntchito ndi zopanikiza, komanso, chifukwa chaumunthu. Ndipo nthawi zina tinkadzudzula izi zomwe zingayambitse zovuta pakupanga makanema. Zingakhale zovuta kwambiri kuti izi zichitike chifukwa cha zovuta zonsezi.

Koma nthawi yomweyo, tikuwona zolembedwazo, ndipo tili ndi malingaliro awa mu script yomwe tikufuna kutumiza - tikufuna kufotokoza lingaliro, kapena chiwembucho. Ndipo kotero tikuyesera kupanga kanema uyu, ndipo tili ndi zinthu monga choncho. Ndipo ndizomwe zili kumbuyo, koma kwenikweni, koposa zonse, ndimafunanso kuphatikizanso kanema mu imodzi mwamakanema anga tisanapange izi. Zowonadi, ndicho chifukwa chake. Ndidayang'ana zolembedwazo, ndipo ndidati, zowonadi, zingakhale zosangalatsa kupeza njira yophatikizira zowonera mu kanemayu, ndipo mwayi wochita izi udatulukira.

Inde inde, ndiye kuti muli ndi zochita zanu zenizeni Yakuza zomwe zidafotokozedwazo, sichoncho. Ndipo magawo amoyo a kanema, chifukwa akuwonetsa Yakuza, ali kale m'malo opatsa chidwi. Pali kuzizira uku kapena mawonekedwe awa omwe mukufuna kuti muwone pazithunzi zamtunduwu. Ndipo chifukwa cha chikhalidwe chomwecho, muli kale m'malingaliro.

Ndipo chifukwa chomwe ndikunenera kuti muli kale ku Fantasyland mukamachita izi ndi chifukwa chakuti mitundu ya Yakuza kulibe ku Japan masiku ano, tikuwonetsa zomwe sizikupezeka ku Japan. Chifukwa chake sikutambalala kwakukulu kuti titha kuchoka pamtundu wina wamalingaliro ndikupita kumalo owoneka bwino omwe awonetsedwa pogwiritsa ntchito njira ina. Chifukwa chake, kuti ndichoke pa zochitika zenizeni za Yakuza, ndikupita kumalo osangalatsa, owoneka bwino kwambiri omwe apangidwa pogwiritsa ntchito njira za anime sizovuta kwenikweni. Sizikuwoneka ngati zosayenera kwa ine. 

Kelly McNeely: Mudalankhula pang'ono zakugwira ntchito ndi zovuta za bajeti ndikugwiritsa ntchito makanema kuti muphatikize malingaliro omwe mwina simukanatha kujambula. Ndi malangizo ati omwe mungapereke kwa omwe akufuna kupanga kanema yemwe akufuna kuyamba kuwongolera?

Takashi Miike: Chifukwa chake upangiri wanga, chabwino, sindikudziwa ngati upangiri wanga ungathandizedi, kapena kuyamikiridwadi ndi aliyense. Koma popeza omwe akufuna kukhala owongolera asankha khalidweli, asankha kukhala mdziko lino lomwe limapanga makanema. Ndichinthu china, ndi chinthu china kukwanitsa kulipira ngongole ndikuyika chakudya patebulo, sichoncho?

Chifukwa chake, upangiri wanga m'malo moganizira kwambiri za mawa komanso zamtsogolo, ingoyang'anani pompano, filimu yomwe mukupanga pakadali pano, ikani chidwi chanu pakusangalala ndi izi ndikungotayika mu zomwe inu ' ndikupanga pompano.

Tsopano, mutha kumenya nkhondo ndi wopanga wanu. Ndipo mwina mungakhale ndi kusagwirizana pamenepo. Koma ngati kanema yemwe mukupanga pakadali pano akuchita bwino chifukwa mumayikiradi zonse, ndipo mwangotayika ndikusangalala ndi ntchitoyi. Mwayi wochita bwino ndi wokulirapo. Ndipo ngati zikuyenda bwino, ndiye kuti mutha kukonzanso nthawi, mutha kubwerera ku zero, mutha kuyambiranso ubale wanu ndi wopanga wanu ndipo mutha kuyambiranso. Ndiye kuti malangizo anga ndi awa, ndikungoyang'ana zomwe mukupanga pakadali pano. Ganizirani pazomwe mukuchita pakadali pano m'malo moyesa mosamala ndondomeko yanu yamtsogolo yopanga mafilimu. Ingoyang'anirani pakadali pano.

Ndipo ayeneranso kumwa mkaka wambiri

Kelly McNeely: Kukhala olimba? 

Takashi Miike: Ndikunena izi chifukwa zaka zitatu zapitazo, tinali kujambulitsa ndipo tinkangochita zoyeserera - ngati tidutse, zinali ngati mayeso oti ochita sewerowo achite. Ndipo mwadzidzidzi - ndipo sindinachite chilichonse, zovuta kwambiri - koma mwadzidzidzi mwendo wanga wamanzere unathyoledwa. Ndipo nthawi yomweyo wotsogolera filimuyo adangokhala katundu wa aliyense wogwira ntchito mufilimuyo. Ndipo ndikunena izi chifukwa aliyense ayenera kuwonetsetsa kuti akupeza calcium yokwanira [kuseka].

Kelly McNeely: Malangizo abwino kwambiri! Tsopano polankhula zamitundu yamtunduwu, mwapanga makanema ndi ntchito zopitilira 100. Kodi pali filimu inayake kapena chochitika chakuwonera kanema chomwe chimakusangalatsani kwambiri, chomwe mumanyadira kwambiri, kapena chomwe munasangalala nacho kwambiri, kapena chomwe simukukumbukira?

Takashi Miike: Inde, mwamtheradi. Chifukwa chake imodzi mwamakanema anga omwe ndimawakonda kwambiri ndipo ndimawakonda kwambiri inali kanema Fudo, ndipo pali nkhani kumbuyo kwake.

Chifukwa chomwe ndimakondwerera kwambiri kapena ndimasangalala kwambiri ndichakuti zinali ngati kumayambiriro kwa ntchito yanga, pomwe sindinadziwike konsekonse. Ndipo ziyembekezo zinali zochepa kwambiri. Kanemayo, ikanakhala yowonera kanema - sikuti imangotulutsidwa pamtundu uliwonse wodziwika. Chifukwa chake, zinali bwino ngati sichinagulitse konse, ndipo inali yotsika mtengo kwambiri. Ndipo cholinga chonse chinali kungoti achite.

Ndipo kwenikweni, zinali zochokera manga. Ndipo mndandanda wama manga womwe udakhazikitsidwa udathetsedwa pakati pamndandanda. Koma ndidawona china chake chosangalatsa kwambiri chifukwa chimangokhala chosangalatsa kwa ine, ndipo ndimaganiza kuti tiyeni tichite izi, izi sizimasulidwa mwalamulo, zikungokhala zachindunji pantchito yapachiyambi ya kanema. Ndipo chifukwa cha izi sitinakhale ndi zoletsa konse. Tinalibe macheke ambiri ndi masikelo omwe anali kuchitika. Ndipo ndimangoyang'ana kwambiri pamenepo.

Ndidayang'ana kwambiri, ndipo ndimangokondwera nayo kwambiri kotero kuti ndinalibe nthawi yogona, sindinagone kwenikweni pomwe ndimapanga kanema. Ndipo titamaliza nazo, wopanga wanga adaziwona nati, izi ndi zabwino kwambiri. Tiyeni titembenuzire izi kukhala filimu yotulutsa. Ndipo iyi inakhala filimu yanga yoyamba yomwe idatengedwa ndi chikondwerero cha kanema. Ndipo zidatengedwa ndi Midnight Madness kuno ku Toronto Film Festival. Ndipo theka ili la bulu litachotsedwa lomwe ndidawona china chake, zidandichititsa chidwi, ndipo ndidawona kena kake ndikungoyang'ana kwambiri. Ndipo imeneyo idakhala mbiri yopambana iyi yomwe idasandulika chidwi changa. Ndipo adandipatsa mphamvu kuti ndipitilize kupanga makanema.

Kelly McNeely: Mukulemekezedwa ndi Mphotho ya Lifetime Achievement ku Fantastic Fest posachedwa. Kodi izi zimamva bwanji?

Takashi Miike: Ndikuganiza kuti anthu amawona kuti ngati chinthu choti mulandire ngati kutha kwa moyo wanu [kuseka]. Chifukwa chake, mwina m'malo motchedwa Mphoto ya Lifetime Achievement, iyenera kukhala ngati mphotho yapakatikati kapena yapakatikati pantchito. Izi zitha kukhala zabwino kwambiri kwa ine. 

Chifukwa chake ndizosangalatsa, chifukwa mdziko la zikondwerero zamafilimu, zinali zikondwerero zamakanema akunja - osati makampani opanga mafilimu aku Japan - omwe adayamba kumvera ntchito yanga. Ndipo izi zidandilimbikitsadi pantchito yomwe ndimagwira. Ndipo zidandilimbikitsadi kupanga makanema ochulukirapo.

Ndipo zinali zoseketsa, chifukwa ku Japan, ndikuganiza kuti anthu ambiri amandiwona mwachizolowezi ngati, siwowongolera makanema weniweni kapena wowongolera makanema. Akungochita ngati mtunduwo, kapena kuwongolera makanema, amenewo si makanema enieni, sichoncho? Ndipo anali omvera akunja omwe amatenga ntchito yanga nati, Ayi, iyi ndi ntchito yabwino. Awa ndi makanema, ndipo awa akuyenera kuwonerera.

Ndipo kotero pali gawo la ine lomwe liri lothokoza kwambiri chifukwa cha izo. Iwo adati, sitisamala za mtunduwo, mtundu wake ulibe kanthu. Ichi ndichinthu chomwe chimafuna omvera, ndipo awa ndi makanema kwa ife. Chifukwa chake ndimamva ngati ndikalandira mphotho ngati imeneyo, ndimamva ngati izi zitha kundipatsa chilimbikitso komanso mphamvu zowonjezera zopanga makanema. Ndipo ndikumva ngati zitha kundipatsanso ufulu. Kuti ndikwaniritse tsogolo langa pakupanga mafilimu ndi ufulu wochulukirapo komanso mphamvu zochepa.

Kelly McNeely: Apanso, mwakhala mukupanga makanema ndi makanema ochuluka kwambiri kwakanthawi, zomwe ndizodabwitsa. Mukuwona ngati kalembedwe kanu monga director kasintha pakapita nthawi, kapena pali china chilichonse chomwe mukuganiza kuti mwaphunzira kudzera munjira yomwe mukupitiliza nanu?

Takashi Miike: Chifukwa chake ndizoseketsa, chifukwa ndimawona kuti ntchito yanga yopanga makanema yasinthiratu, poyerekeza ndi ena omwe amapanga makanema. Mukamapanga makanema, mumakumana ndi zovuta zonsezi. Ndipo mavuto awa omwe mukufuna kuthana nawo, kenako mitundu iyi yamafilimu omwe mungafune kupanga, ndikuti zomwe mumayenera kuchita pang'onopang'ono zikukula ndikukula, kenako zomwe mukufuna kukwaniritsa - chandamale chanu - mukamapita patsogolo, chimasinthanso ndi kanema aliyense.

Ndiye muli ndi wopanga, kapena omwe amakuthandizani omwe akuthandizira makanema anu, mwachitsanzo, ndipo mwina ali ndi china chake chomwe akuyesetsanso kukwaniritsa. Chifukwa chake mukuyang'ana pazomwe akuyesera kuti akwaniritse - maloto awo - komanso mukuyang'ana mtundu wamaloto kapena masomphenya omwe akuyesera kupereka kwa omvera awo. Ndipo ndichinthu chomwe posachedwapa chakhala chofunikira kwambiri, kwa ine, ndikuyenera kuyang'ana zomwe ziyembekezo za anthu omwe akundithandiza, komanso omwe akuthandizira makanemawa. 

Nthawi yomweyo, ndine wotsogolera makanema yemwe wapanga chiyembekezo pakati pa mafani anga, kuti apange makanema omwe ali ndi ziwawazo. Chifukwa chake, wina atha kunena kuti tikufuna kupanga kanemayu popanda zachiwawa zilizonse, kapena tikuganiza kuti mwina ndibwino kungoyankhula pang'ono. Ndipo ndimayang'ana pa izo, ndipo ndikuti, mukudziwa chiyani, ndili ndi chiyembekezo, kotero tiyeni tiwone, mwina ngati tingathe kukankha envelopu pang'ono, ndikuwona ngati tingaphatikizepo zina mwa izo pomwe tikusunga akamanena za kanema. Ndipo ndimasangalala ndi vutoli.

Zomwe nthawi yomweyo zakhala zikuzipanga kotero kuti ndidziwona ndekha ndikuwala kwatsopano; Zandifikitsa kumalo ano, monga, watsopano watsopano amabadwa. Ndipo ndikudziwona ndikusintha kudzera munjira iyi, yomwe kwanthawi yayitali inali yowopsa. Koma tsopano ndimawona kuti ndichinthu chosangalatsa kwambiri. Ndizosangalatsa! Ndizosangalatsa kwa ine kulingalira za chiyembekezo chodzasintha monga wopanga mafilimu pamene ndikupita patsogolo. Ndiye ndikhulupilira kuti ayankha funso lanu.

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