Wokonzeka ikuyimira kupambana pamitundu yopanga zoopsa komanso nthawi yopanga makanema. Kuyambira Wokonzeka inayamba ku Sundance Film Festival mu Januware 2018, Wokonzeka amafanizidwa ndi mayina achifilimu owopsa ngati The Exorcist ndi Kuwala. 

Wokonzeka yatenga mbiri yoopsa kotero kuti zisudzo zomwe zikubwera zikuwoneka ngati zotsutsana ndi zachikhalidwe. Aliyense amene wawona Wokonzeka yalengeza kuti kanemayo ndiwosavuta. 

Wokonzeka Ikuwonetsa kuwonetsa kwa kanema kwa wotsogolera-wolemba Ari Aster, yemwe adakhala zaka khumi zapitazi akupanga makanema achidule. Aster anati: "Zomwe anthuwa anachita zinali zosangalatsa kwambiri." Kunena zowona, poyamba ndimangosangalala kuti anthu samaganiza kuti ndi zoyipa. ” 

Wokonzeka akufotokoza nkhani ya Annie Graham (Toni Collette), mayi yemwe akukayikira kuti kumwalira kwa amayi ake kwatulutsa mphamvu yachilendo yomwe ikuwopseza kuti iwononga Annie ndi banja lake. 

DG: Kodi chiyambi chake chinali chotani, cholowa cha cholowa, ndipo mutu wa kanemayo ndiwotani? 

AA: Ndinkafuna kusinkhasinkha mozama za chisoni ndi zowawa zomwe pang'onopang'ono zimayamba kukhala zoopsa - momwe moyo ungamverere ngati chowopsa pakagwa tsoka. Kufunika kwenikweni kwa mutuwo sikuyenera kumawonekera kwa owonera mpaka kumapeto kwa kanema, koma ndikwanira kutero Wokonzeka imakhudzidwa makamaka ndi kusakhulupirika kwa maubale am'banja. Pakutha pa kanemayo, zikuwonekeratu kuti banja ili lilibe ufulu wosankha; tsogolo lawo laperekedwa kwa iwo, ndipo ndi cholowa chomwe alibe chiyembekezo choti chidzagwedezeka.

DG: Kodi ndi mitu iti yomwe mukufuna kufufuza ndi kanemayu? 

AA: Pali makanema ambiri okhudzana ndi tsoka lomwe limabweretsa anthu pamodzi ndikulimbikitsa maubwenzi. Ndinkafuna kupanga kanema pazinthu zonse zomwe chisoni chingasokoneze anthu komanso momwe zoopsa zimasinthira munthu - osati zabwinopo! Cholowa ndi gawo la zochitika zoopsa kwambiri zomwe zimatsogolera kumapeto oyipa, opanda chiyembekezo. Tsopano ndikungoyenera kufufuza chifukwa chake ndimafuna kuchita zonsezi.

DG: Ndi njira yanji yojambula, yomwe inu ndi ojambula zithunzi za kanema mudakambirana musanayambe kujambula, ndipo mungafotokoze bwanji mawonekedwe ndi kanemayo?

AA: Ndakhala ndikugwira ntchito ndi DP wanga, Pawel Pogorzelski, popeza ndidakumana naye ku AFI, ndipo tapanga chidule chodabwitsa. Timalankhula chilankhulo chimodzi, mpaka kufika pokwiyitsana wina ndi mnzake pakangokhala kusagwirizana kapena kusamvana. Momwe ndimagwirira ntchito - ndipo ndikutsimikiza kuti pali njira zabwino zogwirira ntchito - ndikuti nthawi zonse ndimayamba ndikulemba mndandanda wazowombera, ndipo sindimayankhula ndi aliyense mgulu la anthu mpaka mndandanda wonsewo utatha. Kuchokera pamenepo, mafunso okhudza kuphedwa, kuyatsa, kapangidwe ka zinthu, ndi zina zambiri, amakhala pakati. Koma choyamba, wamkulu aliyense wa dipatimenti ayenera kuwona kanema m'mutu mwawo. Poterepa, kamera imatha kukhala yamadzimadzi kwambiri, yopanda chidwi, yowonera - yosokoneza. Malankhulidwe ake ndi ovuta kuyankhula… koma nditha kunena kuti nthawi zambiri ndimauza ogwira nawo ntchito kuti kanemayo asamve zoipa. Tili ndi banja, ndipo tili nawo limodzi posazindikira zomwe zikuchitika, koma payeneranso kukhala lingaliro loti tikuwawona kuchokera kuzidziwitso zambiri, zankhanza. 

DG: Kodi ndi zinthu ziti zomwe mwabweretsa mufilimuyi, ndipo mukuganiza kuti omvera angakopeka ndi kuchita mantha kwambiri ndi kanemayu? 

AA: Zinali zofunikira kwa ine kuti tizichita nawo sewero labanja tisanafike pazinthu zowopsa. Kanemayo amafunika kuyima payekha ngati tsoka lakunyumba isanakhale ngati kanema wowopsa. Chifukwa chake, zambiri zomwe ndidapereka kwa ogwira nawo ntchito sizinali zowopsa m'mafilimu. Mike Leigh anali m'modzi - makamaka Zinsinsi ndi Kunama ndi Zonse kapena Palibe. Tinakambirananso mozama Mvula Yamkuntho ndi Ku Chipinda, yomwe yasintha pamphindi za 30 zomwe sizosiyana kwambiri ndi za Hereditary. Bergman ndi m'modzi mwa ngwazi zanga, ndipo kulira ndi kunong'oneza ndichinthu chomwe ndimaganizira, komanso Autumn Sonata momwe zimachitikira ndi ubale wamayi ndi mwana wamkazi. Makanema owopsa omwe tidakambirana anali ochokera m'ma 60s ndi 70s. Mwana wa Rosemary anali mwala woyesera woonekera. Osayang'ana Tsopano ndi chachikulu. Nicholas Roeg, ambiri, anali wamkulu kwa ine. Ndimakonda a Jack Clayton Osalakwa. Ndipo pali makanema akulu owopsa aku Japan - Udzu, Onibaba, Ufumu wa Passion, Kwaida, kuroneko...

DG: Mungafotokoze bwanji zamphamvu zomwe zili m'banja la Graham tikakumana nawo koyamba mufilimuyi, ndipo mungafotokoze bwanji zaulendo womwe adatenga mufilimuyi? 

AA: A Grahams amakhala atadzipatula kale wina ndi mnzake tikakumana nawo. Mpweya umayenera kukhala wochuluka ndi mbiri yodzaza, yosadziwika. Kuchokera pamenepo, zimachitika zomwe zimangowasiyanitsa, ndipo pakutha kwa kanema, membala aliyense m'banjamo amakhala mlendo kwathunthu - ngati siwowoneka ngati awiriwo - kwa mnzake. Kuti mufotokozere nkhani ya Freud yonena zamatsenga, nyumba ya Wokonzeka amakhala osasunthika.

DG: Kodi mungalongosole bwanji zakomwe kulipo koyipa komwe kumazunza banja la a Graham mufilimuyi, ndipo amayankha bwanji izi?

AA: Pali zinthu zambiri zapoizoni zomwe zimaseweredwa. Kudziimba mlandu, kuipidwa, kudzudzula, kusakhulupilira… ndiyeno pali ziwanda, nazonso. 

DG: Kodi mungalongosole bwanji ubale womwe ulipo, m'moyo ndi imfa, pakati pa Charlie ndi agogo ake a Ellen? 

AA: Kufotokozera izi kungakhale kuvumbula zowululira zazikulu mufilimuyi. Ndiyesetsa kupewa kuwononga!

DG: Ndi vuto liti lalikulu lomwe mwakumana nalo mukamajambula? 

AA: Tinamanga mkati monse mnyumbamo pamalo omveka. Chilichonse mkati mwa nyumbayo chidapangidwa ndikumangidwa kuyambira koyamba. Kupitilira izi, tinali ndi vuto lina loti tikhale ndi chithunzi chaching'ono cha nyumbayo (pakati pazithunzi zina zambiri). Izi zikutanthauza kuti tifunika kupanga chilichonse chakunyumba pasadakhale kuwombera. Izi sizikutanthauza kuti tifunikira kusankha momwe nyumba ilili komanso kukula kwa zipindazo, chomwe ndichinthu chophweka kwambiri kwa miniaturist kutengera; zimatanthauza kuti tifunika kupanga zisankho zokhudzana ndi kavalidwe koyambirira kwambiri. Chifukwa chake, timafunikira kudziwa momwe mipandoyo ingakhalire, mapepala azithunzi adzakhala otani, zomera zomwe tikadakhala nazo mchipinda chilichonse, zomwe tikadakhala tikuyika pazenera, ndi zina zotero. Tidawombera chilichonse chokhudzana ndi nyumba zodyera sabata lathu lapitali, ndipo zinali zolimba kwambiri kotero kuti tinkatumizidwa m'masiku omwewo omwe amawomberedwa.

Wokonzeka idzatulutsidwa pa June 8, 2018.