Jay Baruchel ndi wojambula / wolemba / wotsogolera / wokonda kwambiri zamtunduwu. Kwa nthawi yake yachiwiri kuwongolera kanema (woyamba Goon: Wotsiriza wa Enforcers), ndizomveka kuti amalowa m'mutu woyamba ndi Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa. 

Kutengera zolemba zojambula za dzina lomweli (lolembedwa ndi Justin Gray ndi Jimmy Palmiotti), Baruchel adakhala zaka zambiri akugwira ntchito yolemba ndi mnzake Jesse Chabot. Chotsatira chake ndi kanema wowoneka bwino, wankhanza, komanso wopatsa chidwi yemwe amatsutsa owonera, mwadala komanso momasuka zomwe zimalimbikitsa zokambirana pazazithunzi zaluso komanso zachiwawa pachikhalidwe chathu kwinaku zikumwaza zenera.

Ndinakhala pansi ndi Baruchel kuti tikambirane zamtundu wankhanza, ma slasher, ndikupanga kanemayo.

Mukhoza onani Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa m'malo owonetsera ndi ofunidwa ku Canada pa Julayi 31, kapena ku Shudder US, UK, ndi Ireland pa Ogasiti 20.

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Kelly McNeely: So Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa zachokera m'buku zithunzi. Koma muli ndi zoopsa zambiri mmenemo, nawonso. Kodi zinali zotani zomwe mudalimbikitsidwa pakuwongolera kanema ndikuwapanga pop?

Jay Baruchel: Kwenikweni zonsezi - izi zikhala zomveka kwambiri - koma zimachokera pakulakalaka kuchita kanthu kena osati monga, 'iyi ndiye kanema woti tiwongolere manja athu'. Chifukwa chake makamaka timafuna kuti tipeze chilankhulo chazachiwawa pazenera zomwe zinali pafupi kwambiri ndi zenizeni monga momwe tingathere, mukudziwa, kupereka kapena kutenga. Ndipo ndikanena izi, ndimatanthauza kuti timafuna kuti zichitike mwaphokoso, komanso kuti tikhale ndi mphamvu zoyambira.

Tidafuna kuti tiziika momwe tingathere kuti tizijambula momwe omvera angawonekere kuti sangakhale olamulidwa komanso otengeka ndi zomwe tidatsata. Ndipo pali makanema ochepa omwe timaganiza kuti afika kumeneko ndi ziwawa zawo. Ndikuganiza zingakhale Zodiac ndi sizingasinthe, ndipo makamaka ku Scorsese kulikonse. Mukudziwa, ma flick ake amakhala okhwima nthawi zonse, koma palibe chomwe chimachitika chomwe sichingachitike. Ngakhale ndizowopsa kuwonera, zikadali, mukudziwa, sayansi ndi matupi ali ndi malamulo, motero timangofuna kutsatira malamulowo. 

Kukhudza mtundu wakuyika choreography, malingaliro athu anali ngati, pali mgwirizano pagulu. Ndipo pali nyimbo zamtundu wina zomwe zimabwera chifukwa chothandizana nawo. Tonse timadzuka tsiku lililonse, tonsefe timakhala ndi chizolowezi chofanana tsiku lililonse ndipo tikakhala kunja ndi kwina - izi zikuwoneka kuti ndizomwe zimachitika musanabise-COVID komwe anthu sadziwa kuyanjananso - koma kwenikweni, pamene mutuluka m'nyumba yanu, mumapanga mgwirizano. Ndipita panjira, ndipo ndidikirira nthawi yanga, ndipo sindimenya aliyense, ndipo ndilipira misonkho yanga, ndipo ndidikirira pamzere, ndipo ndichoka panjira ngati wina akuthamanga, zilizonse, pali nyimbo zomwe zikuchitika zomwe tonse timasewera.

Kelly McNeely: Mgwirizanowu womwe tonse timasaina mosadziwa.

Jay Baruchel: Ndizomwezo, ndipo kuchokera pamenepo pakubwera nyimbo yomwe mwina sitingathe kuyikapo zala zathu, koma mumazindikira mukayima. Chifukwa chake ngati mwakhalako panja ndikumenyanako, kapena chotetezera, kapena apolisi amathamangitsa wina, kapena winawake akufuula, kapena wina awadya, kapena zilizonse, nyimbo imasokonezedwa kwathunthu. Ndipo ikugwira pa mita yakeyokha, ndipo simukudziwa nyimbo ija. Ndipo inu simukudziwa komwe izi zipita. Ndipo timafuna kuti omvera athu amve choncho.

Ngati mudawonapo kanema m'mbuyomu, mutha kuyerekezera kuti momwe zinayambira, zitha. Mukakhala mu kanema wachitetezo, ndipo mukudziwa, mfuti zimatuluka, zimayamba kuwombera kapena winawake akumenya moto pagalimoto, ndikudziwa kuti ndatha mphindi zinayi kapena zisanu ndi ziwiri izi. Wakupha akatulutsa mpeni wake, chinthu chimodzimodzi, sichoncho? Ndipo zowopsa bwanji? Ngati mukudziwa kuti zonse zomwe muyenera kuchita ndikuthana ndi mkuntho panthawiyi yomwe ikubwera potengera zaka 100 zowonjezeranso ku cinema, zomwe zangondiphunzitsa kuti mndandanda uliwonse umadzipangira wokha. Izi zimakupatsani ulamuliro womwe ndimafuna kuti omvera asakhale nawo. 

Lingaliro langa linali, ndikufuna kupha kumachitika mufilimu yathu kuti omvera asadziwe komwe ingapite. Ndikufuna kuyika zolemba zake momwe ndingathere, ndikufuna kuyimitsa telegraphing yake. Nkhani yabwino kwambiri ikakhala kupha kumayambira pomwe ndimamvera kuti omvera ali, oh shit, kodi ndi zomwe kanemayu amakhala kwa mphindi 90 zonsezo? Zinali choncho, ndipo ndikupeza makanema omwe timaganiza kuti tafika kumeneko.

Ndipo zambiri zimakhazikitsidwa pazokambirana kumbuyo kwa nyumba ndi mzanga George, yemwe adalemba zankhondo zonse mufilimuyo. Ndipo ndiwosewera waluso kwambiri, koma waluso kwambiri wankhondo yekha. Ndipo tonse ndife akulu kwambiri pama kanema, ndipo timagwiritsa ntchito nthawi yathu yonse limodzi osapanga makanema. Chifukwa chake timakhala ndi zokambirana zambiri, ndipo nthawi zambiri zimakhala zotsutsana. Ndipo tinkakhala ngati, magalasi aliwonse amabwera bwanji pakukhudzidwa ndi kanema? Zitha bwanji kuti mpando uliwonse usokonezeke chifukwa chakukhudzidwa ndi kanema? 

Kelly McNeely: Galimoto iliyonse imaphulika.

Jay Baruchel: Inde! Ndipo nkhonya iliyonse imagwa mokoma. Malo aliwonse ndi angwiro. Zonsezi sizowona! Ndipo kotero kuti ndiye kuthetheka komwe kudatsogolera ku mtundu wa chaka chomwe tidayika.

Kelly McNeely: Munali ndi Karim Hussein wochita kanema wa Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa - Ndikudziwa adatero Hobo Ndi Mfuti ndi Mwiniwake, zomwe zonse ndizabwino - mudayamba bwanji chilankhulo chofananira popanga kanema? Chifukwa chakuti ili ndi chilankhulo chowoneka bwino kwambiri.

Jay Baruchel: O, zozizwitsa. Ndine wokondwa kumva inu mukunena izo, onani, ine ndikuganiza chomwechonso. Zomwe ndikunyadira nazo kanemayo ndikuti ndizovuta kufotokoza. Anthu amati, o ndiye zili ngati Kanyumba M'nkhalango kapena zili ngati Saw kapena zili ngati- ndipo sizili choncho, zimakhala ngati zake zokha. 

Karim ndi ine, zokambirana zathu za kanema uyu zimayamba kwenikweni - titha kukangana - 20 kuphatikiza zaka zapitazo, chifukwa iye ndi ine tadziwana kuyambira ndili ndi zaka 15 kapena 16. Kubwerera tsiku lomwelo asanakhale wolemba kanema, anali wolemba wotsogolera, ndipo asanakhale wolemba, adayambitsa Phwando la Mafilimu la Fantasia ku Montreal, komanso anali mtolankhani ku Fangoria. Fantasia anali - Ndakhala ndikupita ku chikondwererochi kuyambira ndili ndi zaka 14. Ndipo ndili ndi zaka 15 kapena 16, ndinali ndikujambula kanema ku Montreal wotchedwa Matthew Blackheart: Monster Smasher, ndipo Fangoria adaliphimba, ndipo adatumiza Karim kuti aliphimbe pokhazikika. Ndipo nditazindikira kuti anali m'modzi mwa omwe adayambitsa Fantasia, ndidataya zoyipa zanga ndi ma nerds awiri - mukudziwa kuti ndimotani pomwe ma nerds awiri amapezeka, ndipo akungoyamba kuyankhula Linux - koma kenako tidakhala ngati tagwa osakhudzidwa.

Ndipo zaka zingapo zapitazo, ndidamuwonanso kudzera pa Jason Eisner yemwe adandibweretsa kunyumba, ngati kaphwando kena kake. Ndipo Brandon Cronenberg anali komweko ndipo Karim anali komweko. Ndipo ndidati, Karim, bambo, ndakhala ndikunyadira kwambiri kuchokera patali kwazaka 20 zapitazi, ndipo anali ngati, "Inde, chimodzimodzi!". Chifukwa chake zidali zabwino kuti pamapeto pake tipeze kanema, chomwe ndi chipatso cha zokambirana zaukadaulo zomwe zidatenga zaka makumi awiri. 

Amabwera ndi malingaliro ochulukirapo. Sanathenso kulimbikitsidwa ndi china chatsopano, ndipo chidwi chachikulu cha Karim ndikuchita china choyambirira. Tsopano, simungathe nthawi zonse, ndipo ndimomwe zimachitikira. Koma nthawi zonse ziyenera kukhala zokhumba komanso cholinga. Ndipo Karim alinso ngati - Ndimamutcha chikumbumtima changa chaluso. Monga, lingaliro lirilonse lomwe linali lolimba kwambiri kupanga mwaluso, ngati tikadakhala pa mphanda panjira ndipo panali njira ina yosavuta, yofikirika yochitira china - yomwe sichinali chibadwa changa - koma mukudziwa , Ndikupanga kanema wokhala ndi nthawi yochepa ndi ndalama za anthu ena, ndipo ndiyenera kupangitsa anthu kuti ayimbe. Chifukwa chake, kukambirana kotheka komanso kosavuta kupezeka kumakhalako, kumakhalako nthawi zonse. Ndipo pokhala ndi wina wonga Karim, ndiye mngelo paphewa panu - kapena mdierekezi, mukafunsa opanga omwe ndikuwakayikira - kuti ndiamene akukhala, pitirizani kulimbikira. Ayi, ndichiyani. Mukudziwa, ingokhulupirirani zomwe tidapeza. 

Chifukwa chake ndidabwera ndi kanema ndipo adabwera ndi makanema ambiri omwe timaganiza kuti ndi amalo abwino. Ndidabwera ndi Nsapato zofiira, yemwe ndi wakale wakale waku Britain kuyambira 40s kapena 50s - osati chowopsya chakutali, ngakhale ndimati ndizowopsa - koma zimangokhudza mphamvu zomwe ndimamva ndikamayang'ana, zinali ngati, o, kuti phale lomwe ndimaganiza kuti ndi loyenera pachinthu ichi. Karim amabwera ndi ma DVD angapo.

Chikhalidwe chake chachikulu chinali chakuti inali stickam flick, ndiye kuthetheka komwe kudatsogolera kudzoza kwake konse ndi malingaliro ake onse. Mtundu woyamba waukulu womwe ukuwoneka kuti ndi womwe anali, ndimamva ngati kanema akuyenera kukhala sticam ndikumangoyenda nthawi zonse. Ndipo kotero kanema woyamba yemwe adandiuza zomwe zinali zolimbikitsa kwambiri kwa ife - mwa njira iliyonse - zinali Choyera Pamaso, yomwe ndi zaka za m'ma 80 - kanema wakupha wakupha wa 80s - kanema wapamwamba kwambiri wowonera komanso kujambula kwamisala, ndipo mukaziwona, ndikuganiza kuti mutha kuwona, "oh ndawona zomwe akunena". 

Ndipo titadziwa chilankhulo, tikakhala ndi malingaliro okwanira kuchokera m'mafilimu a anthu ena kuti tiyambitse mawu ndi chilankhulo chathu. Ndiye tikulankhula izi, Karim amakonda kunena kuti, "chabwino, ndiye ndawerenga kalembedwe, ndikuganiza kuti ndikuwona amber ndi cyan". Ndidati, o, ndikufuna pinki. Ndikufuna mtundu womwe wonse wa mtengo wa Khrisimasi umakhalapo pomwe mitundu yonse ya magetsi a Khrisimasi, pomwe onse akuyimba nthawi imodzi. Monga zimakupatsirani chonyamula cha pinki. Ndipo Karim amabwera ndi amber ndi cyan - moto ndi madzi, awa ndi malingaliro ake akulu awiri omwe adalowa nawo.

Ndipo ngati titadutsa mndandanda wathunthu wazithunzi zisanu ndi chimodzi zisanapangidwe, pamapeto pake tidazindikira momwe filimuyo iliri, yomwe ili - ndipo iyi ndi nkhani yayikulu, osati yowonera kumbuyo [mufilimuyi] - koma Kuwonera kwa kanemayo ndi POV wamzukwa wofuna kudziwa zambiri. Ndi mzimu womwe sunakwatirane ndi aliyense, koma uli ndi chidwi ndipo umalumikizidwa ndi aliyense, ndipo ndiwomwe kamera yathu imayendayenda ndipo imapeza zochepa ndipo imapeza zidutswa kenako mumakhala ngati mukudziwa… Kotero mulibe mzukwa wofuna kudziwa. Ndikuganiza ndikadatha kuyankha motero mosavuta. 

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