Ndinali ndi mwayi wokhala pansi ndikulankhula ndi Kempff za filimu yake, kulimba mtima kwa boma, David Lynch, ndi mantha osakhulupiriridwa.

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Kelly McNeely: Chifukwa chake ndikumvetsetsa kuti ndikusintha kapena kutengera nkhani yaifupi ya Johan Theorin yotchedwa Kugogoda. Kodi mungalankhuleko pang'ono momwe mwaipezera nkhaniyo? Ndipo bwanji ponena za izo kwenikweni analankhula kwa inu?

Frida Kempff: Eya, ndangopeza buku lina. Ndidakhala ndikuchita zolemba m'mbuyomu, ndipo nthawi zonse ndimamva m'mabuku, ndichinthu chomwe ndimasowa ngati wotsogolera, mukudziwa, sindingathe kuchita zonse. Chifukwa chake nditapeza bukuli, ndimaganiza, wow, izi ndizabwino. Tsopano nditha kukhala wopanga ndikugwira ntchito ndi zinthu zonse, ndi mawu ndi nyimbo ndi mitundu ndi zonse. Ndipo kotero ine ndinalandira chilolezo. Ndipo iye anati, inu mukudziwa, khalani omasuka, ingopitani. 

Ndipo zomwe ndimakonda kwambiri ndi bukuli ndi mutu wakusakhulupirira. Makamaka ngati mkazi, komanso chovuta kunena nkhani mkati kuposa kunja. Ndi zovuta. Koma inenso ndimakonda chovutacho, chifukwa ndikuganiza kuti nkhaniyo ndi yaifupi - siitalika - ndi yochulukirapo, ndi nkhani yozama kwambiri m'thupi ndi malingaliro ake. Ndipo chimenecho chinali chinthu chomwe ndimafuna kuyesa.

Kelly McNeely: Pali zambiri zomwe zikuchitika kumeneko. Ndipo ndimayamikiranso mitu yowunikira gasi, ndikuganiza ngati akazi tonsefe timazidziwa bwino. Kodi mungalankhule pang'ono za izo? Ndipo kuyankha ndi kuchitapo kanthu kwakhala bwanji pafilimuyi?

Frida Kempff: Sindinathe kukumana ndi anthu ambiri, mwatsoka. Ndapanga zowonera ziwiri - zowoneratu - kuno ku Sweden. Ndipo ine ndanena kuti ine ndikuganiza kuti akazi onse adzakhala kapena akumana ndi kusakhulupirira. Ndipo ine ndikukhoza kuwona omvetsera onse, ndipo theka la omvetsera anali akazi, ndipo ine ndimakhoza kungowona momwe iwo anali kugwedezera, inu mukudziwa, ndipo amuna sanamvetsebe nkomwe chimene ine ndinali kuchikamba. 

Ndipo ine ndikuganiza icho ndi chinachake chimene ife tonse timanyamula nafe. Ndipo chimenecho chinalinso chinthu chomwe ndimafuna kuchita nacho kugogoda, mukudziwa, kuti amuna mwina amatha kumvetsetsa momwe zimamverera, pokhala mkazi. Ndipo pochita izi, ikani omvera mu nsapato za Molly. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti anyamata ambiri amamvetsetsa. Mukudziwa, kodi zimenezo nzoona? Kodi ndi zomwe mwakumana nazo? Ndikuganiza kuti m'lingaliro limenelo, zayambitsa chinachake mu ubongo wa amuna, mukudziwa? [kuseka] Nthawi zina zimakhala zovuta kufotokoza mawu anu. Ndi bwino kuchita filimu. 

Kelly McNeely: Ndikuganiza kuti ndi filimu yosungulumwa kwambiri, yomwe imadyetsa maganizo ndi Molly, ndipo phokoso ndi mtundu zimagwiritsidwa ntchito, mogwira mtima kuti zithandize kuyankhulana ndikuthandizira kufufuza izi. Kodi njira yolumikizira zonsezo palimodzi inali yotani, kuti izi ziwonekere momwe zidachitikira mozama?

Frida Kempff: Eya, ine ndikuganiza izo zinali zophweka. Mwanjira ina zinali zophweka, chifukwa chinali lingaliro limodzi lokha. Chifukwa chake madipatimenti onse (a kanemayo) adayenera kutsatira ulendo wamtima wa Molly. Choncho ndinapeza lingaliro logwiritsa ntchito mtundu wa mitundu. Choncho adatsatira mkwiyo wa Molly. Sitinathe kuijambula motsatira nthawi, choncho ndinkalankhula ndi mitundu yosiyanasiyana m’malo mwa mawu. Chifukwa chake ndikamawongolera Cecilia (Milocco), ndinganene kuti muyenera kukhala - ndikutanthauza, zobiriwira zinali zoyambira, ndipo kufiyira kozama kunali kutha kwa filimuyo - ndipo ndinganene, ayi, inu. sunafiirabe, ukadali wofiirira kapena chinachake. Ndipo mapangidwe apangidwe ndi magetsi, amatsatira chitsanzo chomwecho. Ndiye inde, ndimomwe ndidapangira.

Kelly McNeely: Ndimakonda zomwe munanena za kukhala ndi izi, kuchuluka kwake komwe kungathe kudziwa komwe ali m'maganizo ndi m'malingaliro, chifukwa mumamva kuti kudzera mumitundu ya filimuyo.

Frida Kempff: Eya, zimawonedwa pamene akuthamangira kwa amuna, pamene iwo anali ndi kamera pa iye. Ali ndi shati yoyera basi, sinali yofiira. Koma mu kopanira lotsatira, izo kwenikweni wofiira. Iye akupitadi mu mtundu wofiira mu chithunzi chomwecho. Zinalidi zosangalatsa.

Kelly McNeely: Ndikumva ngati pali zinthu zina Zenera lakumbuyo likukwaniritsa Kudzudzula, mwanjira ina, komanso ndi mitundu yazidutswa zakale zomwe timazipeza mosagwirizana, zomwe zidandipangitsa kuganiza za Zofunika pang'ono. Kodi panali mfundo zolimbikitsa kwa inu popanga kugogoda? Kodi mungalankhule pang'ono za izo?

Frida Kempff: Inde, zinali zowona, Kukana. M'lingaliro limenelo, ndinaganiza kuti zinali zatsopano kukhala ndi maganizo achikazi, mukudziwa, osati maganizo a Polanski. Ndikuganiza kuti akazi ambiri ayenera kuchita mantha. Chifukwa ife tikudziwa momwe izo ziri, inu mukudziwa? Ndipo Zenera lakumbuyo, ndithudi, kungoyang'ana chinachake popanda kutsimikiza ngati muyenera kusokoneza kapena ayi, kunali kosangalatsa. Umu ndi momwe timakhalira pakati pa anthu, makamaka ku Sweden. Sindikudziwa momwe zilili ku US, koma ku Sweden, "musasokoneze". Ingoganizirani zazanu. Ndipo inu mukudziwa, inu mukhoza kumva kufuula, koma inu simuyenera kuchita chirichonse. Choncho, ndinaganiza kuti kulimba mtima kwa boma kunali kofunika. 

Koma, inde, Hitchcock ndi David Lynch, komanso Zofunika. Ndine wokondwa kuti mudawona izi, zomwe zidabwera mukukonzekera. Chifukwa tili ndi ziwonetsero zake zakunyanja - zomwe zidali zotsatizana ziwiri zokha. Koma ndinazindikira mu gawo loyamba, kuti sungangomuyang'ana. Mumafunika kumumva ndi zomwe wadutsamo. Kotero ndinali nditangoyang'ana kumene Zofunika ndipo ndimaganiza kuti zidutswa za zoopsa zinali zabwino kwambiri. Chifukwa chake ndidagwiritsa ntchito, ndidangotenga [kuseka].

Kelly McNeely: Ndimakonda momwe zimatengera zinthu mosagwirizana ndi zomwe zikuchitika, mumamva zomwe zikuchitika kumbuyo kwake, koma osati zomwe zidachitika, zomwe zimapangitsa kuti zikhale zokhudzidwa kwambiri, ndikuganiza.

Frida Kempff: Inde. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti ndi momwe zimakhalira ndi zokumbukira ndi zowawa. Inu mumayang’ana chinachake kapena inu mununkhiza chinachake ndipo icho chikubwerera kwa inu mu chithunzithunzi, ndiyeno icho chapita.

Kelly McNeely: Mudanenapo momwe timawonera zachiwawa ndipo sitinena kalikonse, koma ndi lingaliro losangalatsa kwambiri. Ine ndikuganiza kuti ife tikuwona zinthu izi, ndipo ife timachitira umboni zinthu izi, koma pali mtundu wa chinthu cha chikhalidwe ndi chikhalidwe kuti tisanene kalikonse, kuti tisalowerere, kuti tisalowe nawo. Kodi mungalankhule pang'ono za izo, ndi momwe izo zinakhudzira filimuyo?

Frida Kempff: Eya, ndinawerenga nkhani zambiri posachedwapa za amayi omwe anachitiridwa nkhanza - makamaka m'nyumba - ndi oyandikana nawo omwe amavala makutu chifukwa iwo, mukudziwa, ayenera kupita kuntchito. “Ndatopa kwambiri ndi kukuwa kwake”. Ndipo ine ndimaganiza kuti izo zinali zoipa. Chifukwa chiyani sitichita kalikonse? Ndipo kotero kulimba mtima kwachiwembuku ndikofunikira kwambiri kuti ndilankhule. Ndipo chifukwa chiyani sitichita chilichonse. Sindikudziwa ngati zikuipiraipira, kapena zinali bwino kale, sindikudziwa. Koma zimamveka ngati tili ndi anthu ochulukirachulukira, ndipo sitisamala za zomwe zikuchitika pafupi nafe. Ndiye ndizomvetsa chisoni. Koma mukudziwa, chiyembekezo chidakalipo, titha kuchitabe zinthu.

Kelly McNeely: Timatenga mafoni athu ndikutengeka nazo nthawi zina. Mukudziwa, letsani zomwe zikuchitika pafupi nanu nthawi zambiri.

Frida Kempff: Inde. Ndipo pali nkhani zoipa zambiri, kotero mumangomva…mwina mumatopa nazo. Koma ndikutanthauza kuti ndikuganiza pambuyo pa mliri, ndi zinthu zonse, ndikuganiza kuti tiyenera kuyang'anirana kwambiri. Ndipo makamaka anthu omwe ali osungulumwa, kapena omwe ali ndi matenda amisala. Mukudziwa, nenani moni, ndikuyitanitsa anthu kuti adzamwe kapu ya khofi. Basi, inu mukudziwa, kuonana wina ndi mzake. 

Kelly McNeely: Tsopano, Molly - Cecilia Milocco. Iye ndi wodabwitsa. Munamutenga bwanji, munakumana naye bwanji? 

Frida Kempff: Ndidachita naye filimu yayifupi ndisanayitane Wokondedwa Mwana. Ine ndikuganiza iye ananena, monga chiganizo chimodzi kapena chinachake mu mphindi 15, ndipo iye kwenikweni kuyang'ana chinachake. Angaganize kuti mwana akuchitiridwa nkhanza, koma alibe umboni. Kotero iye ali wochuluka wa mboni mwachidule. Ndipo zinali zambiri za kamera kukhala pankhope pake. Ndipo amawonetsa mawu onsewa popanda kunena chilichonse. Ndiye nditapeza buku la kugogoda, mukudziwa, ndinangodziwa kuti anali wangwiro pa udindo. 

Chifukwa chake tonse tilipo, kuti tizikhulupirirana wina ndi mnzake, koma ndimafunikira kuti amulimbikitse kwambiri kugogoda, kumene. Ndipo tidalankhula chilimwe chonse chisanachitike, osati makamaka za Molly, koma zambiri, mukudziwa, matenda amisala ndi chiyani? Kodi kukhala wamisala ndi chiyani? Zimakhala bwanji kukhala mkazi? Kenako tidasankha zinthu kuchokera kuzomwe takumana nazo, ndikumanga Molly umunthu wake pamodzi. Anaphunziranso ku chipatala cha anthu odwala matenda amisala kwa tsiku limodzi. Ndipo iye anati, Sindikufunanso kafukufuku wina. Tsopano ndachipeza. Ndapeza udindo. Ndapeza gawolo. Koma iye ndi wodabwitsa. Iye ndi wodabwitsa. Ine ndikuganiza iye anabadwira kwa icho, inu mukudziwa.

Kelly McNeely: Apanso, nkhope yake. Ndipo Amalankhulana kwambiri kudzera m'mawu ang'onoang'ono, ma voliyumu chabe.

Frida Kempff: Ndendende. Inde. Kotero chinthu chokha chimene ndinayenera kusamala nacho chinali kudikira ndi kuphulikako. "Osati tsopano", mukudziwa, chifukwa amangofuna kuti achite kuyambira pachiyambi. Koma “ayi, ayi. Zakwanira. Ndikukulonjezani, zakwana” [kuseka].

Kelly McNeely: Ndipo tsopano ndi zovuta zotani zopanga filimu pomwe mumangoyang'ana malingaliro a munthu m'modzi, kapena momwe amawonera zochitika?

Frida Kempff: Hmm. Mukudziwa, sindinachite zosiyana. Chifukwa chake sindikudziwa momwe zimakhalira kugwira ntchito ndi oponya wamkulu. Mwanjira ina, ndimaganiza kuti mwina zinali zosavuta, chifukwa mumangoyang'ana pa munthu mmodzi. Vuto lake linali lakuti nthawi zonse ankakhala yekhayekha. Ali m'chipinda chino, ngati, 80% ya filimuyi, ndipo akuchita motsutsana ndi makoma anayi, ndipo mumatani? Kotero ine ndinali ndi zomvera zojambulidwa kale za iye, kuti azitha kuchitapo kanthu. Komanso nthawi zina ndinkakuwa, choncho ankafuna kuchitapo kanthu. Ndipo inde, sindikudziwa zosiyana. Chifukwa chake ndikuganiza kuti zingakhale zosangalatsa kuyesa [kuseka]. 

Tinali ndi ena ochita zisudzo. Patatha sabata, kumabwera munthu m'modzi - wosewera wothandizira - ndipo [Cecilia] anali ngati, o, ndizoseketsa kwambiri, ndilankhula nanu lero. Zomwe ndikuganiza - kwa Cecilia - zinali zovuta, chinali kusamva mawu omwe ndinali nawo m'mutu mwanga. Ndinali ndi mawu onsewa m'mutu mwanga nthawi yonse yowombera. Koma iye analibe zimenezo, ndithudi. Choncho ndiyenera kumutsimikizira kuti ndi zokwanira. Mukudziwa, ndi inu nokha, ndidzayika dziko lomveka bwino pambuyo pake.

Kelly McNeely: Ndikumvetsetsa kuti iyi ndi filimu yanu yoyamba ngati nkhani, kapena filimu yopeka. Kodi mungakhale ndi upangiri kwa otsogolera achichepere omwe akufuna kupanga gawo lawo loyamba, kapena makamaka, otsogolera achichepere omwe akufuna kukhala amtundu kapena omwe akufuna kugwira ntchito mumakampani? 

Frida Kempff: Funso labwino. Ndikuganiza kuti muyenera kudzifufuza mozama, komanso zomwe mukudziwa. Gwiritsani ntchito zomwe mwakumana nazo, chifukwa zikakhala pafupi ndi inu, zimakhala zowona mtima. Ndicho cholinga changa. Kubera zinthu, koma musayese kupanga zina Zenera lakumbuyo, chifukwa tili nazo kale. Ndikuganiza kuti mukamagwira ntchito kuchokera kwa inu nokha komanso momwe mumawonera komanso momwe mumawonera, zimakhala zapadera, ndipo ndizomwe tikufuna kuwona. 

Ndimaonanso kuti ndi bwino kukhala wouma khosi. Chifukwa nthawi ndi nthawi, umagwa ndikugunda, ndipo anthu amati, o, ndizovuta, mwayi wanga umapita. Koma ngati mukuikonda, ingopitirirani. Pitirizani ndipo mudzapeza anthu abwino oti mugwire nawo ntchito, anthu omwe angakuthandizeni. Ndipo musaope kumvera anthu ena. Koma khalani ndi masomphenya anuanu. Ndi chilinganizo. 

Kelly McNeely: Tsopano ine ndinafunsa kale za inspirations kwa kugogoda, koma m’lingaliro lowonjezereka, kodi muli ndi filimu yowopsya imene mumakonda kwambiri? Kapena filimu yomwe mumakonda kwambiri yomwe mwabwererako?

Frida Kempff: Ndinakulira m’dziko la Sweden. Chifukwa chake tinali ndi njira zaboma - zinali njira ziwiri - ndipo ndili ndi zaka 11 kapena 12, ndidawonera. Didimo nsonga. Ndipo izo zinali zodabwitsa. Zinali zowopsa kwambiri. Ndikukumbukira kuti tinali ndi mtengo kunja, chifukwa inali famu, ndipo mukudziwa, mtengo wa Lynch ndi nyimbo zomwe zimadutsamo? Zinali zowopsa kwambiri. Ndipo ndimamva kuti ndili mufilimu ya Lynch. Ndizodabwitsa momwe tingagwiritsire ntchito zinthu zakale. Ndipo ndinali ndisanaziwonepo zimenezo. Chifukwa chake ndimakumbukira nthawi zonse, ndikuganiza kuti ndi wodabwitsa. 

Koma ndili wachinyamata ndinkaonera mafilimu oipa kwambiri. Choncho ndinaganiza kuti sindimakonda. Ndiyeno kwenikweni, pamene ine ndinayang'ana Jordan Peele Tulukani, zinandibwerera. Momwe munganene zina za dziko lomwe tikukhalamo monga gulu ndi zonsezo, ndikuganiza kuti ndizodabwitsa. Ndicho chimene ndimakonda pa mafilimu amtunduwu.

Kelly McNeely: Ndipo ine ndikuganiza pali chinachake chimene chiri chowopsya kwambiri pa lingaliro la kusakhulupirira. Apanso, kukhala ndi aliyense kukhala ngati, ayi, ayi, ayi, ayi, ayi, izi ndi zabwino, izi ndi zabwino, ndikudziwa mozama kuti chinachake sichili bwino. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti pali makanema ambiri owopsa omwe amamvetsetsa mantha amenewo, omwe amachotsa mantha amenewo, ndipo Tulukani ndithudi amachita zimenezo. 

Frida Kempff: Ndipo anthu omwe amawonera zoopsa ndi anthu abwino kwambiri amafilimu. Iwo ali ndi malingaliro awa omwe ndi odabwitsa. Ndikuganiza kuti ndizosiyana ndi omvera a sewero, mukudziwa, ziyenera kukhala zenizeni komanso zenizeni ndi chirichonse, koma mowopsya, ndi matsenga. Ndipo nthawi zonse akhoza kukutsatirani mumatsenga amenewo.

Kelly McNeely: Eya, mwamtheradi. Ngati pali a Sharknado, anthu azingopita nazo. 

Frida Kempff: Inde, inde, mwamtheradi. Timapita nazo [kuseka]. Inde. Ndimakonda zimenezo. 

Kelly McNeely: Ndiye chotsatira kwa inu nchiyani? 

Frida Kempff: Chotsatira ndi chinthu chosiyana kwambiri. Ndi gawo la nthawi yachikazi. Choncho kwatsala chaka kuti nkhondo yachiwiri yapadziko lonse iyambe. Zachokera pa nkhani yowona ya wosambira wina wa ku Sweden amene anasambira pa English Channel masiku atatu nkhondo isanayambe. Amatchedwa The Swedish Torpedo. Chifukwa anasambira mofulumira kwambiri anali torpedo. Koma ndikuganiza kuti ndigwiritsanso ntchito zinthu zamtundu womwewo. Nditenga izo ndi ine.

 

Yolembedwa ndi Emma Broström komanso nyenyezi Cecilia Milocco, kugogoda ikupezeka pa Digital ndi On Demand. Kuti mumve zambiri za filimuyi, Dinani apa!