Comika Hartford ndipo Skyler Cooper adakumana koyamba ku OutFest ku Los Angeles. Hartford anali komweko ndi mndandanda womwe adagwirapo ntchito Dyke Chapakati, ndipo Cooper anali kuyambitsa kanema wake wamfupi, Hero Mars.

Kanemayo adakhudza kwambiri Cooper. Anali akugwira ntchitoyi mufilimu pomwe adayamba kudziwika kuti ndi ndani, ndipo kanemayo adalankhula ndi Hartford. Ataiona, adakumana ndi bambo kuseri kwa kanemayo.

"Ndidakonda zomwe Skyler adachita," adatero Hartford. “Ndidathamangira kwa iye, ndikumumenya kukhofi ngati tili pabwalo lamasewera, ndikuti 'Tsopano ndife abwenzi!' Kenako ndinatembenuka ndi kuthawa. ”

Momwe zimakhalira, chinali chiyambi cha ubale wabwino wogwira ntchito komanso ubale. Kulankhula ndi awiriwa panthawi yofunsidwa kwa Kunyada Mwezi, pali chikondi ndi ulemu pakati pawo, komanso nthabwala yoona yomwe imafalikira.

Hartford, wokonda nthawi yayitali, adawona china chake ku Cooper, chojambula ngati mungafune, chomwe amadziwa kuti ndichabwino pantchito yomwe wakhala akugwira yotchedwa Malo Amdima, nkhani yamdima yakuda yachinsinsi ndi angelo.

"Ananditumizira script, ndipo zinali zodabwitsa," adatero Cooper. "Ili ndi kukula kwakumatauni kotereku. Comika ikuukira zabwino ndi zoyipa masiku ano. Ndi wolemba wodabwitsa ndipo adalemba nkhani yabwino kwambiri. ”

Hartford pakadali pano akugwira ntchito yopezera ndalama mutu wotsatira wa ntchitoyi, koma palibe amene akupumula panthawiyi. Pomwe ndikulemba izi, Cooper akukonzekera kupanga koyamba kukhala munthu woyamba wa trans, monga tikudziwira, yemwe adalowapo m'malo mwa Shakespeare's Othello. Ntchitoyi ichitika pa Chikondwerero cha Livermore Shakespeare ku California.

Kulowa m'malo owopsa anali china chaposachedwa kwambiri kwa Cooper. Zinali mu 2018 zokha pomwe adawonekera lasso, kanema wa Evan Cecil. Ndi nkhani ya rodeo ya ziwanda komanso amuna ndi akazi oyipa omwe amayendetsa.

Cooper akuvomereza kuti chinthu choyamba chomwe adachita ataponyedwa mufilimuyi chinali kuyang'ana ndikuwona kutalika kwa moyo wake.

Zomwe samayembekezera zinali kutsimikizika komwe adapeza pakupanga kanema. Imeneyi inali filimu yoyamba yomwe adatenga atatuluka ngati trans, koma anali kusewera cis-woman mufilimuyo. M'modzi mwa omwe adagwirizana nawo adangokhala Karen Grassle yemwe adasewera Caroline Ingalls Nyumba yaying'ono Paphiri. Grassle adamva zokambirana zomwe Cooper adakambirana ndi wotsogolera kumayambiriro kwa kuwombera ndipo adapita kwa wochita sewerowo kumufunsa momwe amakonda kuyankhulidwira.

Zotsatira zake, Grassle ali ndi mwana wamwamuna wobereka chifukwa chake adadziwa zomwe Cooper anali kukumana nazo, ndipo amafuna kuti akhale omasuka momwe angathere.

"Zinali zosangalatsa kwambiri kukhala ndi chitsimikizocho kuchokera kwa Karen," watero wosewerayo.

Chenjezo la owononga: Khalidwe la Cooper lidapulumuka mufilimuyi, zomwe sizinali zachilendo kwa anthu akuda m'mafilimu ambiri owopsa pomwe zizindikilo zakula bwino, makamaka pazowonekera zazikulu zowonekera. Ichi ndi chimodzi mwazinthu zomwe Hartford, mwiniwake, akugwira ntchito kuti athetse. POMALIZA ZONSE ***

“Nkhani za oimira. Popeza tili ndi anthu ambiri omwe si nkhonya, popeza tili ndi zilembo zenizeni zomwe sizoseketsa kapena kuphatikizira chizindikiritso, zomwe timapanga ndizopanga zomwe sizowala zokha, koma tili ndi nkhani zomwe zimamveka bwino ndipo zimasowetsa mtendere, " iye anafotokoza. “Ndi Malo Amdima, Ndikulenga zilembo zomwe zikungokhala zokha ndipo ndi gawo la nkhaniyi osatinso zofanizira. Ndicho chinthu chachikulu chokhudza mtunduwo. Pali malo oti nkhani yanga izikhala pafupi ndi makanema a Rob Zombie ndi ma 80s. ''

Izi zidatsegula chitseko chomwe chidatibwezeretsanso m'mafilimu owopsa komanso omwe samangokhala owopsa, komanso izi zidatanthauzanso china kwa Hartford ndi Cooper.

"Ndicho chifukwa chake a Romero Usiku wa Anthu Akufa zinali zodabwitsa kwambiri, ”adatero Hartford. "Onani zomwe a Duane Jones adachita ndi udindowu. Onani zomwe zotsatirazi zimachita. Yang'anani pa ndemanga imeneyo. Zinandisokoneza! Ndikunena nthano! Romero adandisokoneza, amuna. Ndinali mwana wabwinobwino, ndinaziwona izi, ndipo tsopano ndine wodabwitsa. Ndili ndi mlandu Romero. ”

“Tiyeni tipite The malodza ndi The Exorcist, ”Cooper anawonjezera. “Makanema amenewo ali ndi mbiri yoipa. Amakulolani kuti muyandikire pafupi ndi otchulidwa kotero kuti china chake chikawachitikira, mumalumikizana nacho ndipo chimakupweteketsani. Monga ndi Mwana wa Rosemary... "

“Inde! Zokhudza umunthu, "Hartford adalowererapo." Mwamuna wake amamugulitsa muukapolo wakugonana chifukwa chadyera komanso kusilira ntchito yabwino. Ndikuganiza kuti pali malo ochulukirapo ochezera. Nthawi zonse ndimakhala ndichikondi komanso chowopsa. Sindinayambe ndakhalapo, koma posachedwapa ndinawona kanema wotchedwa Zamgululi ndipo ndimangokhala mchipinda changa pambuyo pake. Zinali zosangalatsa kwambiri ndipo zinali zochititsa mantha! ”

Ponena za kudziwona tokha m'mafilimu amtundu, onse Hartford ndi Cooper akuyesetsa kutero Malo Amdima ndi kupitirira apo. Kwa Cooper, zimayamba ndi njira zowerengera.

"Ndikuganiza kuti chinthu chofunikira kwambiri kwa ochita masewera akuda, ochita masewera olimbitsa thupi, ndi zina zotero ndikuwonetsa," adatero. “Pakhoza kukhala magawo omwe mutha kutengapo gawo omwe sanawone atayika zikwangwani. Mwaulemu pemphani kuti akawonetsedwe ndipo ngati mungateteze awonetseni zomwe mungakwanitse kuchita nawo zomwe mwina sizinalembedwe kwa inu. ”

"Ndikugwira ntchito ndekha," adanenanso, "mnzanga yemwe amagwira ntchito ku Dreamworks anandiuza ngati mukulemba script ndipo mukufuna kuti munthu wina akhale wakuda, ndiye kuti muyenera kulemba kuti, chifukwa ngati simutero ndiye kuti adzaponyedwa ngati zoyera. Ndikuganiza kuti ndi chaka chapitacho pomwe ndidamva izi. ”

"Ndi chifukwa chakuti 'zoyera' ndizosasintha," adatero Hartford. "Ngati Clint Eastwood ndi Tim Burton apanga makanema oyera kwambiri, sichinthu chachikulu koma Jordan Peele atangonena kuti akufuna kungotsogolera anthu akuda pamakhala phokoso. Zoyera komanso zowongoka ndizomwe zimachitika. ”

"Sikuti amangokhala m'mafilimu, komabe," adatero Cooper. “Tikukhala m'dziko lomwe likuyesera kufafaniza anthu osunthika. Kukhala munthu wosintha, ndi moyo kapena imfa. Akuyesera kutichotsera moyo wathu. ”

Zachisoni, zomwe Cooper akunena ndizowona.

M'dziko lonselo, tawona kubwezeredwa kwa ufulu wogulitsa, kuyambira kutha kugwira ntchito yankhondo mpaka kutetezedwa ku tsankho mukafuna chithandizo chamankhwala. Akazi a Trans akuda akuphedwa pamlingo wowopsa, ndipo ogwira ntchito zamalamulo akuchita zochepa kuti aletse.

Tikamabweretsa izi, nthawi zambiri amatinamizira kuti ndife andale, koma manyazi amenewo sanachokere kwa ife. Andale andale adatizindikiritsa tikamapanga malamulo ambiri otsutsa kukhalapo kwathu. Andale andale adatizindikiritsa pomwe amatipanga kukhala "ena" momwe amatha kusokoneza ovota pazinthu zofunika kwambiri.

Ichi ndichifukwa chake kuyimilira kumakhala kofunika ndipo chifukwa chake kuwonongeka ndizowononga koopsa. Anthu akuda, amuna ndi akazi otembenuka, amuna ndi akazi osakhalitsa alipo. Kudziwona tokha sikuyimiriridwa kumangolimbikitsa kudzidalira kwathu, komanso kumatsimikizira kukhalako kudziko lonse lapansi.

Inde, ngakhale popanga makanema owopsa.

Mwamwayi, tili ndi abambo ndi amai ngati Skyler Cooper ndi Comika Hartford kutsogolo kwa izi.