Kelly McNeely:  Chifukwa chobwezera mtundu woopsawo, ndikudziwa kuti m'mabuku ojambulawa, adanenanso kuti akuyesera kuphatikiza ma 70s giallo cinema ndi chidwi cha opha anthu wamba. Ndimakonda kwambiri zomwe mudachita ndi Kathy, yemwe akupanga mtundu wa Michelle McNamara wamakhalidwe omwe amayang'ana kwambiri kwa omwe adachitidwa zachipongwe, ndipo ndimaganiza kuti inali lingaliro labwino kwambiri. Nchiyani chakukopani kuti musinthe komanso chomwe chakukokerani kuntchitoyo?

Jay Baruchel: Inde, chabwino, ozizira. Ndi Kathy - ndizabwino kwambiri kuti mudati a Michelle McNamara, chifukwa mkazi wanga amakonda kwambiri ya buku lake. Koma kwa ine anali Ann Rule yemwe pazifukwa zilizonse samamukonda pachiwopsezo chenicheni - monga mu hipster yatsopano yolanda milandu, palibe amene adapeza nthawi ya Rule - koma iye adangopanga mtundu wa fucking, ndipo buku lake la wakupha wa Green River ndichinthu chovuta kwambiri chomwe ndidawerengapo. Ndipo ndizovuta kwambiri, chifukwa - ndikuthokoza kuti ndidawerenga ngati bambo wazaka 26 - sizidandigwere ine ndisanawerenge izi zoyipa. Kapenanso ndimangowerenga mosasamala, chifukwa nkhani yake yonse inali pamachaputala 10 aliwonse okhudza wovutitsidwayo, pali chaputala chimodzi mwina chokhudza wakuphayo, ndipo mutu uliwonse ndi mbiri yomwe imathera ndi msungwana wosaukayu kuphedwa ndi mnyamatayu . Ndipo kotero muwerenga ma bios onse m'bukuli kuti onse amafikira kumapeto komweko. Ndipo inali epiphany yayikulu iyi kwa ine ngati munthu yemwe anali wokonda zachiwawa kuyambira ndili wachinyamata. 

Ndipo kubisalaku kudasokoneza chinthu china chomwe Stephen King adanenapo pomwe ankakonda kupanga gawo ku Fangoria za momwe makanema ochepera amakhala zinthu zambiri, koma siowopsa. Ndipo amakhala ngati atengeka. Anati, ngati mungatchule dzina ndi kumumvera chisoni Jason ndipo mukumupangira iye kuti aphe ana amenewo, si iwo omwe akukamba kanema. Ndi za iye. Ndipo ndiye chokumana nacho chotani ngati womvera. Ndipo zozizwitsa ziwirizi, ndizofanana.

Ndikuganiza kuti akuchitapo kanthu ndi zomwe mwamunayo amachita motsutsana ndi zomwe anthu adakumana nazo. Ndipo sindinakonde izo mwa ine, mukudziwa? Ndipo mwachifundo komabe, kuzindikira kumeneku kunabwera kwa ine panthawi yomwe Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa sitinapangidwe, ndipo zikomo kwambiri, chifukwa tidalemba cholembera choyamba cha mankhwala ngati, zaka zisanu ndi zitatu, zisanu ndi zinayi zapitazo. Ndipo zoyipa zambiri izi zinali zisanatichitikirebe, ndipo ife - Jesse [Chabot] ndi ine - sitinakule mokwanira kuti tizindikire zoyipa izi.

Sindikufuna kunena kuti kanema wathu ali ngati, mukudziwa, Sungani or Solaris kapena china chake, koma ndikunena kuti poyambirira tidalemba zokongola pamphuno, zomwe mungayembekezere kukhala zoseketsa zomwe zimasewera chimodzimodzi. Tidachita nawo momwe mumamenyera nkhondo mu kanema wa Bond, ndipo chinali cholinga chathu kuti titha kukhala openga bwanji, sichoncho? Imeneyi ndi njira yolowera polowera, chifukwa ngakhale simukukhulupirira mtima wamagazi - koma timavomereza - ngakhale simukukhulupirira izi, zowopsa sizowopsa. Pamene kupsyinjika kwamisala kwamankhwala amisala kumachitika mpaka pomwe umakhala wapamwamba kwambiri kuposa munthu amene uli naye pafupi, ukumva manyazi, koma mantha sichimodzi mwazinthu zomwe ukumva.

Ndipo kotero tinali ngati, zivute zitani, tikufuna kupanga china chowopsa, chifukwa ngati kanema wowopsa adzalephera china chilichonse, ayenera kuchita bwino. Ndipo chowopsa ndichani kuposa kudziyang'ana wekha ndikukhumudwitsidwa ndi munthu ameneyu? [akuseka] Mukudziwa, ndiye zoyipa zenizeni, amuna. Komanso sitikufuna kukhala opitilira muyeso ndikuwuza aliyense ngati "musayang'ane anyamata Jason Amapita Ku Gahena", Chitani chilichonse chomwe mukufuna mungodziwa za zomwe mukuyikamo. 

Komanso, kuwonjezera pamenepo anthu akuyenera kukhala - mpaka pamlingo woti azikangana - koma anthu akuyenera kukhala ndiudindo pazomwe amatulutsa kudziko lazovuta. Tsopano, pamlingo wotani, womwe ndili wokonda kukambirana ndikusinkhasinkha ndikusanthula ndikuyesera kuti mumvetsetse, koma kunamizira kuti mulibe udindo ndikutsimikiza, ndikuganiza. Ndipo ndicho chinthu chomwe ojambula ambiri aulesi adabisalira "chabwino ayi, chitani, ndinganene chilichonse chomwe ndikufuna". Inde, mungathe, koma chiwerengerochi ndi chiani? Kodi zotsatira zakukula kwa dziko lapansi ndizotani? Mukuwonjezera chiyani, mukuchotsapo chiyani? Mukupitiliza ntchito yanji?

Chifukwa chake tikupanga kanema kakang'ono aka - ngati kanema wina aliyense ndi chozizwitsa - adamwalira atatu owopsa asadakhale kanema. Ndipo nthawi iliyonse ngakhale, imfa yowopsa iliyonse, sitinali okhutira ndi zolembedwazo momwe zimakhalira. Tinali ngati, chabwino, uwu ndi mwayi wopanga bwino. Tilibe chilichonse koma nthawi tsopano, chifukwa chake titha kupitiliza kuzipanga bwino chifukwa zikadakhala zomveka bwanji kuti pamapeto pake tizipange ndipo ndi script yomwe tidalemba zaka 10 zapitazo zomwe sitinagwirizane nazo, ndipo adapeza fumbi. Chifukwa chake tidangozitenga ngati malingaliro athu chifukwa tinalibe chisankho. Sitimangopotoza zala zathu zazikulu. Chifukwa chake ngati kanemayo sanali kupanga, palibe amene amatipatsa ndalama kuti tiipange, zochepa zomwe tingachite ndikuyesera kuti zizikhala zomveka. Ndipo kotero mulimonsemo, ndi momwe zidathera momwemo.

Kelly McNeely: Munthu woipa amene muli naye, amamuwona mwachidule koma amasiya chidwi; wosewera ndiwopambana pantchitoyi. Mukuponya bwanji wakupha?

Jay Baruchel: Inde, movutikira kwambiri. Tidamuponya masiku atatu tisanayambe kuwombera, zomwe zinali ngati, zopanikiza kwambiri, chifukwa ndinali ndi zinthu zonse zodabwitsa izi, koma china chake chofunikira mufilimu yowopsa, makamaka kanema wowopsa uyu, ndiye wakupha. Ndipo tinali ndi zopereka ziwiri zosiyana kwa anthu awiri osiyana omwe anali ngati, zinthu zowona, omwe pa ola la 11, adalipira. Tinachita kuti izi zichitike kawiri.

Ndipo mwadzidzidzi, tsopano tatsala ndi masiku asanu kuti tipeze chithunzi ndipo tili ngati, chabwino, tiyenera kuyamba kukonzekera zikhalidwe zomwe sitikhala ndi wakupha tsiku loyamba kuwombera. Chabwino, chabwino, zonse zili bwino. Ali mu chigoba, kotero titha kupanga hayala kawiri ndikupangitsa kukakamira kuwirikiza pamenepo, chifukwa sitikuwona nkhope yake kangapo koyamba. Chifukwa chake, chabwino, tidzalemba ganyu kawiri kenako ndikulemba wochita sewero kuti afanane ndi zovuta ziwirizo? Chabwino ndi mtundu wa bulu chammbuyo, sichoncho? Tinangokhala ngati tasokonekera.

Ndiyeno Lachitatu kapena Lachinayi la sabata limenelo, ndinati kwa wotsogolera stunt wanga Blair [Johannes], Ndati kwa anyamata anu onse, anyamata omwe mumapita, ndani amene ali woyenera kukambirana? Ndani wosewera wabwino kwambiri? Ndipo ngati mungandiuze anyamata amenewo, mutha kuwafunsa ngati akufuna kuwerenga? Chifukwa ndiudindo waukulu, chifukwa chake aliyense amene tingapange, ndiye kuti azigwiranso ntchito kuposa wosewerayo.

Chifukwa chake ndayang'ana wosewera aliyense mumzinda wovuta, mukudziwa, mumakonda ndani? Ndipo ali ngati, chabwino, ndili ndi anyamata atatu, m'modzi wa iwo wavulala kotero sangachite. Mnyamatayo, ndizomulemera, pali zokambirana zambiri, zili kunja kwa malo ake otonthoza. Zowona, ndimamulemekeza ponena izi. Ndipo chomwe chinali chabwino anali Simon Northwood kudziyika yekha pa tepi. 

Ndipo ndikulumbira kwa Mulungu, inali mayeso abwino kwambiri… nyengo. Ndipo ndadutsapo mayeso awiri kapena atatu ku Toronto, omwe anali amitundu yonse, chifukwa chake tikuwonanso Montreal, Vancouver, ndimatha kuwona chilichonse. Koma, maulendo awiri. Ndipo Lachinayi usiku tisanayambe kukonzekera, ndimayang'ana tepi iyi. Mwa njira, ngati sanali wowoneka bwino, ndinali wokonzeka kupita sabata yoyamba ija wopanda. Ndikadagula nthawi, tikadasunthira zoyipa, sichoncho? Koma iye akuyipha anapha.

Nthawi ndi nthawi, mukudziwa zamtsogolo. Mukudziwa, mukuwona zinthu; uli ngati, o ndichifukwa chake anyamata awiriwa omwe ndimaganiza kuti achita sanachite, ndipo ndichifukwa chake palibe amene - m'malingaliro mwanga - adapha momwe amayenera kuphera. Ichi ndichifukwa chake sindinapeze aliyense. Ichi ndichifukwa chake ochita masewera awiriwa sanapezeke, chifukwa amayenera kukhala Simoni. Ndipo mwadzidzidzi, sindiyenera kupeza zokopa kawiri, mwadzidzidzi zochitika zonse zakupha zimakhala zotetezeka kwambiri chifukwa amatenga nawo mbali, ndipo awonetsetsa kuti ochita sewerowo atetezedwa. Chifukwa chake akusintha kawiri konse. Akuchita monga wakupha, koma alinso pansi kuti awonetsetse kuti aliyense ali bwino, zomwe amachita mosalekeza. 

Iye anali godend ndipo mukudziwa, chimodzi mwazinthu zomwe ndimakondwera nazo ndi kanema ndikuti zimapangitsa kuti ziwoneke ngati ndapeza Simon Northwood, chifukwa ndikuganiza ngati, ndimasewera abwino monga ndawonera aliyense Kanema nthawi yayitali kwambiri. Amawononga! Ndipo uyu ndi bambo yemwe, pazifukwa zilizonse, sanayambe wanena zoposa "Freeze!" kapena "Panjira iyi, amayi" mu kanema. Anali wokondwa kukhala ndi choti achite, ndikuthamangira, pamapeto pake adapeza zoyipa zomwe sindikanakhala nazo, zomwe nthawi zonse zimakhala maloto mukalembera winawake.

Kelly McNeely: Mudasintha zinthu, pang'ono, kuchokera pazithunzi zojambulajambula ndikukhala ndi anthu otchulidwa ku Canada. Koma ndikuganiza kuti wonyoza ndi lingaliro laku America, kulondola. Chifukwa chake ndili ndi lingaliro lapaulendo wapamtunda wosunthira ku States, ndikumva ngati kuti zidathandizadi. Ndinafuna kuyankhula pang'ono za ma slasher ngati lingaliro laku America, ndipo mumapanga bwanji filimu yopepuka?

Jay Baruchel: Mukunena zowona, ndi mawonekedwe aku America kwambiri. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti zili ngati mawonekedwe aliwonse aku America omwe amachita bwino. Zimakukanda m'njira. Zili ngati, whopper wochokera ku Burger King amachita zinthu. Zimandisangalatsa. Idzafika pomwepo - ndikudziwa kuti ndi ya mafuta, ndipo ndikudziwa kuti ndi yauve, ndipo ndikudziwa kuti ndi mankhwala, ndikudziwa ndi unyolo, ndikudziwa zifukwa zonse izi zomwe sindiyenera kuzidyera - koma Mulungu sangachite chilichonse china chimatero [kuseka], chimafika pamalo oyenera, amuna.

Chifukwa chake ndinganene kuti mtunduwo umachitanso zomwezo, komanso pazifukwa zofananira. Za ine, ndikuganiza kuti zimayamba ndi izi, uyenera kunena mwatsatanetsatane za anthu omwe adzathamangitsidwe, nambala wani, apo ayi si kanema wowopsa. Kenako ndimayang'ana munthuyu akupita ndikupha anthu omwe sindimayang'ana nawo, ndipo ndichinthu chokha, koma sinena kanema wowopsa kwa ine. Chifukwa chake ndikufuna kunena za iwo, ndikufuna chilichonse choyipa chomwe chimachitikira anthu omwe akuthamangitsidwa kumtunda, ndikufuna kuti andikhudze momwe ndingathere mwaumunthu. Ndikufuna kuti ziswe mtima wanga. Ndipo ndikufuna kumva zomvekera zochepa zomwe ndizovuta zenizeni kuchokera mufilimu.

Ndizosowa kwambiri kuti ine ndikhale wosasangalala ndikamaseweredwa mpaka kukafika ngati "fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck", sindikufuna china chilichonse kuposa kungomva ngati pali wina pakhomo panga. Ndikufuna kuchita mantha kutembenuka, kutalikirana ndi chinsalu, chifukwa ndimamva ngati wina ali kumbuyo kwanga. Ndipo izi sizingachitike konse. Chifukwa chake ndimangofuna kuwopseza anthu. Ndinkafuna kupanga china chowopsa. Ndikuganiza kuti yankho lake ndikuti - mwina ili ndi yankho labwino kwambiri - koma ndikuganiza yankho lake ndilofanana ndi yankho la momwe mungapangire china choseketsa? Kapena mumalemba bwanji nyimbo yabwino, ndikuganiza, yomwe ili ngati, zowona, amuna. 

Mutha kutsutsa kanema wathu pazinthu zosiyanasiyana, koma sindikuganiza kuti mungayitchule kuti, koma ndikuganiza kuti ndi kanema wowona mtima komanso wowona mtima ndipo tidayandikira chilichonse mwanjira imeneyi. Ndipo izi zikuphatikiza zachiwawa, zomwe zimaphatikizapo wakupha / chilombo chathu, chomwe chimaphatikizapo omwe amatitsutsa. Ndimakhulupirira kwambiri mtundu wamafilimu owopsa. Ndipo sindikuganiza kuti kuyenera kwa china chake kumadalira ngati chikukwaniritsa kapena kupereka ntchito kapena china chake.

Anthu ena anganene, bwanji mafilimu owopsa amapambana? Pali zokambirana zambiri ndi Wes Craven, zosankha momwe timafunikira kutulutsira maloto oopsa kapena chilichonse chomwe chingachitike. Zimakhala zoyipa nthawi zonse, zomwe zili zowona, ndizabwino, koma ngati, ngakhale sizikukwaniritsa izi, ndikuganiza kuti ndizofunikira chifukwa pali gawo lalikulu la ife lomwe limakhala loopsa komanso lowopsa. Mwa aliyense wa ife. Tili ndi mantha ndipo timawopa, ndipo timadziwopa tokha ndipo timadziwa zomwe zimawopseza ife. Timaopanso anthu ena, tikudziwa zomwe zimawopsyeza iwo, mantha ndikutanthauzira zomwe zili mumunthu wamunthu monga kukhutira ndi kupweteka. 

Ndikuganiza kuti mumangokonda, kukhala wankhanza, kupita zenizeni, ndikulankhula zoyipa za anthu zomwe zikuwachitikira. Ndipo moyenera, khalani ndi omvera pamalo osakhala bwino ndi munthu woyipa. Ndikuganiza kuti muyenera - chisoni ndi chisoni, zomwe sindikudziwa - koma ndikudziwa kuti ngati mutha kumvetsetsa kapena kuwona chidutswa cha inu, kapena kukhala ndi chidutswa cha iwo, ndicho chabwino kwambiri. Ndiko kulakalaka kwabwino, ngati ndingathe kuzimvetsa ndikumvetsetsa… monga momwe ndingafunire kuti satana atuluke, koma ndikumvetsetsa chifukwa chomwe akumusankhira wansembeyu… Ndiye wabwino kwambiri. 

Kelly McNeely: Ndikuganiza kuti zilinso bwino, monga zomwe mumalankhula ndi zakupha, zimakhala kuti mumayikira wakuphayo - wakuphayo amakhala ngwazi - zomwe mumayankhula nawo. Chifukwa chake ndikuganiza kuti ndikofunikira kwambiri kukambirana, kuthana ndi mfundo yoti pali kulemekezedwa kwa nkhanza pachikhalidwe chathu, koma nthawi yomweyo, monga… pali ziwawa zina zazikulu pachikhalidwe chathu! Mutha kuyiyamikiradi, mutha kuyikamo, ndipo imathandizadi kena kake mkati mwathu ndikunyengerera china chake chomwe tikufuna. Ndikuganiza kuti pali chosowa chozama kuti muthane ndi nkhondo.

Jay Baruchel: O, ndithudi. Inde. Chifukwa tinabadwa mu chiwawa. Inde, ndichinthu choyipa, inde, ndichinthu chabwino, komanso ndichinthu chokha!

Kelly McNeely: Ilipo!

Jay Baruchel: Inde! Monga, chifukwa chiyani ofiira amalumikizidwa ndi chilakolako paliponse? Ndi chifukwa magazi a friggin ndi ofiira. Ndipo mukawona magazi, dziwani kuti china chake choipa chachitika. Chifukwa chake munthawi yomwe tinalibe mawu ofotokozera chifukwa chake tinkachita mantha kapena komwe tingapite mukawona zofiira, mumadziwa kuti simuyenera kukhalapo. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti tamanga nyumba zamakhadi pamwamba pake. Zowona nawonso, komabe akadangokhala nyumba yamakhadi kumapeto. Kumapeto kwa tsikulo, ndimaganizirabe kuti ndife nyama yomweyo yomwe ikuchita zoyipa zomwezo.

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Kuti mumve zambiri ndi Jay Baruchel, khalani tcheru pamacheza athu pakuwongolera, zotsatira zake, ndi makanema omwe amawakonda kwambiri, ndikuwunikiranso Zochitika Zachiwawa Zachiwawa.

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