Zisanachitike zatsopano IT, Kuwoneka bwino kwa Tim Curry ndi zomwe anthu adazindikira kuti ndi Pennywise wojambula wojambula, wopangidwa ndi wojambula wapadera Bart Mixon. Chiyambireni mndandanda wapa TV womwe udayambika mu 1990, watchuka ndipo ukupitilizabe kuchititsa mantha a zisudzo m'mitima yaku America. 

Mixon wakhala akugwira ntchito yayitali kuyambira Robocop ku ntchito zaposachedwa kwambiri Atetezi kwa Way ndi mafilimu. iHorror adalankhula naye pa ntchito yake pomwe amalimbikitsa zolemba pazaka za m'ma 1990 IT momwe adafunsidwa za kupanga mapangidwe a Pennywise ndikupereka mawonekedwe a BTS, Zopanda nzeru: Nkhani ya IT. 

Muzoyankhulana izi, Mixon amalankhula zomwe zidamuchitikira IT zikupangidwa, momwe akuganiza kuti zimayenera kutha komanso ziwerengero zomwe amakonda za Pennywise. Ndipo ngati ndinu okonda ma 1990s IT, sungani zolemba izi pa radar yanu. 

Bri Spreesharnerner: Ndakhala wochirikiza kwambiri moyo wanga wonse pazothandiza. Kotero ndizodabwitsa kulankhula ndi munthu yemwe ali ndi mbiri yochuluka momwemo. Monga mumanenera kale, ndizosangalatsa kuti Pennywise ali ngati mwana wanu.

Bart Mixon: Wina ngati Stan Winston mwachiwonekere ali ndi mbiri yakale ya anthu ambiri abwino. Kotero, monga ndikuwuza Rick Baker, ndi zabwino kukhala nayo. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti Pennywise ndi wanga. Ndagwiritsa ntchito zodzoladzola zabwino kwambiri; Ndinagwira ntchito pa choyambirira Robocop ndi Hellboy ndi zinthu monga choncho. Koma izo zidapangidwa ndi ojambula ena odzola ndipo ine ndinali kugwiritsa ntchito, koma Pennywise anali wanga kuyambira pachiyambi. Ndidachisema, ndikuchipanga, kotero kuyambira koyambira mpaka kumapeto ndidayang'anira zonse zomwe zidachitikapo. 

Ndipo makamaka, mwinamwake mwadyera ndinali ngati, ayi, ndikuchita zodzoladzola zimenezo. Ngakhale ndinali ndi gulu lalikulu, ndinu abwino ngati gulu lanu. Ndipo ndinali ndi gulu labwino kwambiri pa izi ndi nthano zamakampani monga Norman Cabrera ndi Aaron Sims ndi Joey Orosco ndi Brent Baker ndi Jim McLaughlin.

BS: Kodi mumakonda zopakapaka za Pennywise ndi ziti?

WB: O, Tim Curry. Imeneyi mwina inali nthawi yoyamba yomwe ndinachita chidwi, ngakhale ndidagwira nawo ntchito ngati Peter Weller zisanachitike, ndidapanga kanema ndi Shelley Winters chapakati pa '80s. Pakati Bakuman ndi Zowopsa Kwambiri, ndinali wokonda chabe. Panalidi manjenje pang'ono monga mukudziwira, ndikuyembekeza kuti sindidzasokoneza. 

Ndine wothokoza kwambiri kuti tidachita mawonekedwe a asidi a batri, chifukwa sitinachite izi. Ndikutanthauza, ndinachisema, ndikupita nacho ku Canada kuti ndikawombere nacho koma tidatithera nthawi. Ndipo adangosankha kuwombera zochitikazo momwe amawonekera. M'malo mwake, ndidayenera kupanga chidole choyimitsa cha mainchesi 18 kuti akatsike mumtsinje womwe timasema kuti uwoneke ngati Pennywise wamba. Ndipo kwenikweni tsiku lomwe ndimapanga nkhungu yamwala pamenepo ndipo ndidapeza theka lakutsogolo mu pulasitala, Jean Warren yemwe anali kuyang'anira zowoneka adati tikupanganso, ndipo tigwiritsa ntchito batri yanu ya asidi. yang'anani. 

Ndinali nditachita kale kutsogolo kwa chinthucho ndi pulasitala kotero kuti chidolecho chitangothamanga, ndimayenera kutenga kachipangizo kakang'ono kenakake ndikumata kachipangizo kakang'ono kuti ndimatirepo ndi kupanga zodzoladzola zofanana pa sikelo sikisi kapena kotala. zisanu ndi chimodzi, Tim Curry wamng'ono uyu. Koma Tim, mwaulemu wake, anadzipereka kuti azidzipakapaka. Anali atawona zidutswa ku Canada ndipo anali woyamikira kwambiri za izo. Anali maloto chabe koma ndikuganiza kuti chinthu chomwe ndimakonda kwambiri pakupanga kwake chinali asidi wa batri.

BS: Ndikuganiza kuti zimagwira ntchito bwino, mawonekedwe ake ndi owopsa kwambiri.

WB: Tsoka ilo, filimuyo imamveka ngati Tim atachoka ndipo sindikuganiza kuti ndi vuto lililonse la Tommy ndi olemba nkhani, ndi Tim yemwe analipo mwamphamvu ndipo ndimaganiza kuti tinapanga kangaude wabwino kwambiri koma mumamuphonyabe Tim Curry. mphindi 20 zapitazi. Ndipo kotero ine ndikuganiza kamodzi iwo anavulaza kangaude uyu ndipo iye amayendayenda, pamene iwo anamuthamangitsira iye pansi ngati iye anatembenuzidwira ku Pennywise panthawiyo, ndiye iwo anamupha iye. Ndikuganiza kuti akadakhala mathero okhutiritsa kwambiri, koma sindikuganiza kuti wailesi yakanema yazaka za m'ma 1990 ikadalola akulu atatu kapena anayi kumenya zonyansa za sewero la pa TV ndikudzudzula mtima wake.

Chilichonse chomwe tidachita pachiwonetserocho chinali choyang'aniridwa bwino kwambiri ngati mutu wodulidwa mufiriji, simungakhale ndi nyama ikulendewera. Kotero, sindikudziwa kuti zolembera zikadatilola. Apanso, iyi inali TV ya 1990s. Ndizomwe anthu amandifunsa za chatsopanocho ndipo ndi kanema wa R-rated mu 2017. Mukudziwa? Kotero eya, iwo sanali kugwira ntchito pansi pa zofooka zofanana ndi ife.

BS: Ngakhale ndinganene malinga ndi momwe ndimaonera, ineyo ndimakonda mawonekedwe apachiyambi chifukwa chakuti amamva chisoni kwambiri, ndipo amakhala ngati owona. Ndinali kudabwa ngati muli ndi maganizo aliwonse pa maonekedwe a prosthetic kwa atsopano IT kanema.

WB: Ndikuganiza kuti ntchito kumeneko ndi yabwino kwambiri. Ndi kutenga kosiyana. Ndinkaganiza kuti zinali zoseketsa, ndinatero Amuna a Black 3 ndi Jemaine Clement. Ndidapanga zodzoladzola zake za Boris the Animal kwa Rick Baker, kotero Jemaine ndi ine tikadali mabwenzi. Kotero pamene adawulula chithunzi choyamba kuchokera ku chatsopanocho IT, iye anali ngati “Kodi mwawona mawonekedwe atsopano a Pennywise? Anangotengera zanu.” Ndipo ndinali ngati, chabwino, pali zofanana zobadwa nazo chifukwa ndi ziwopsezo. Ndipo ine ndikutanthauza, tsitsi lake ndi lofiira mofiirira kwambiri ndipo langa ndi lofiira ngati bozo. 

Kungochokera ku nkhani, ngati ndili ndi vuto ndi zodzoladzola, izi ndi chinyengo kuti akukonzekera kukopa ana atsopano. IT. Ndikuganiza kuti ndi zodzoladzola zabwino ndipo ndikuganiza kuti zikuwoneka bwino, koma palibe njira ku gehena mwana angabwere mkati mwa mailosi a Pennywise, akungowopsya kwambiri, kunja kwa chipata. Ndipo changa, ndimayesa kupangitsa kuti chiwoneke ngati chiwongolero chosavulaza ndikulola momwe Tim Curry adachita kuti awonjezere. 

Chimodzi mwazinthu zomwe ndimafuna kupanga zomwe ine ndi Tommy sitinawone diso ndi maso, ana akamamuwona amakhala Pennywise yemwe timamudziwa komanso kumukonda, koma akuluakulu akamamuwona, amakhala wowopsa kwambiri. cha izo. Chifukwa chake chingakhale china chogwirizana ndi Pennywise yatsopano ndi ming'alu yonse. Izo zikanakhala zovunda ndi zinthu monga choncho. Monga momwe asidi a batri amawonekera koma ponseponse, chifukwa mwanzeru nkhani panthawiyo akuluakulu amadziwa kuti iye si wochita masewero, ndipo amadziwa kuti amadziwa kuti si wochita masewero. Kotero zinali ngati palibenso chifukwa chenicheni chokhalirabe kudzinamiza. Ndipo chifukwa chake kukhala pafupifupi zombie-fied caricature ya wosewera. Tommy sanazione choncho. 

Ndikuganiza kuti mwina mwa zina, Tim sanafune kuvala zodzoladzola zambiri. Kotero izo zikanafunikira kuchuluka koyenera kwa ndandanda ya iye kukhala mu zodzoladzola zolemera. Sichinthu choipa. Koma chatsopanocho kukhala chowopsa komanso chowopsa kwambiri ndi momwe ndimayesera kuzitengera akuluakulu, mukudziwa, kotero sindingathe kuwaimba mlandu chifukwa cha izi. Ndimangoganiza muzithunzi akamachita ndi ana, amangowoneka wowopsa kwambiri.

BS: Ndi mfundo yabwino. Sindinaganize choncho. Kodi muli ndi munthu yemwe mumakonda kuchitapo kanthu pa Pennywise?

WB: Zonse zomwe zingatheke. Ndikuganiza kuti adatuluka ndi ziwiri mwa izi.

BS: Uwu, ndizodabwitsa.

WB: Ndinadikirira zaka 30 kuti abwere ndi malonda ndi malaya a Pennywise. Ndikutanthauza, ndikupita ku Walmart tsopano ndipo ali ndi T-shirts za Pennywise.

BS: Kodi mukuganiza kuti masiku ano anthu ali mu classic? IT kuposa momwe zinalili pamene idatuluka?

WB: Zikuwoneka choncho. Ndikutanthauza, kunali kugunda kwakukulu. Koma kachiwiri, sindinkawona malonda ndi zinthu monga choncho. Ndipo kachiwiri, ndikuganiza kutulutsidwa kwa filimu ya 2017 pamene akugulitsa mtunduwo, ndikuganiza kuti anali ngati, tiyeni tichotse fumbi lakale ndikuchitanso zinthu kuchokera pamenepo. Koma ndibwino kungolowa m'masitolo kapena misonkhano ndi zinthu zomwe mwina zinali zozizira kwambiri pamene filimuyo inatuluka mu 1990. IT ndi pepala ndi zodzoladzola zanga za Tim Curry pachikuto. Linali linga lalikulu ili la zodzoladzola zanga.

BS: Kodi munganene kuti Pennywise ndiye chinthu chabwino kwambiri kapena chomwe mumakonda chomwe mwagwirapo ntchito? Kapena muli ndi zotsatira zomwe mumakonda zomwe mwachita pantchito yanu?

WB: Chabwino, pokumbukira mmbuyo, ndagwira ntchito pazinthu zabwino kwambiri. Ndikutanthauza, Pennywise ndizinthu zomwe ndidazipanga ndekha ndikuzipanga, osayang'aniridwa. Koma ndinagwira ntchito yoyambirira Robocop, ndinagwira ntchito pamagulu awiri a Guillermo del Toro Hellboys. Ndine wokonda nthabwala za Marvel, kotero ndidachitira Paul Bettany nkhondo Civil ndi Nkhondo yopanda mphamvu. Ndipo ndimangogwira ntchito Atetezi 3, ndipo ndinapanga zodzoladzola za Christian Bale kwa masiku angapo atsopano Thor filimu kwa reshoot. Ndiyenera kuthandiza ndi Nebula pazatsopano Thor, Michael Chiklis in the Zozizwitsa Zinayi mafilimu kotero zimakupiza ine ndalandira ntchito zambiri ozizira chidebe mndandanda-mtundu ziwonetsero.

BS: Ndili ndi chidwi ndi malingaliro anu pa nthawi yapakati pomwe zotsatira zapadera zidayamba kukhala zosafunikira kwenikweni m'mafilimu ndipo anthu adayamba kusunthira kwambiri ku CGI. Kodi inu munayamba mwamvapo zimenezo?

WB: Eya, ndikutanthauza, mothokoza, sindinasiye kuyenda. Ndikuganiza kuti ndikanakhala wojambula zithunzi, ndikadamvadi. Poyamba zinkangokhalira nkhonya ngati, oh my god, tonse tasowa ntchito. Ndithudi, anyamata oima ndi animatronic anamva zimenezo. 

In Amuna akuda 3, Ken Ralston anali woyang'anira zowonera akugwira ntchito limodzi ndi Rick Baker. Chifukwa chake inali imodzi mwa nthawi zochepa pomwe digito sinayesetse kuwononga anyamata othandiza. Amagwirira ntchito limodzi ndipo motero Rick amakhala ngati, "chabwino, ndimanga mlendo wonga nsomba ya golide, koma sitiyika kuphethira kulikonse. Ngati Barry akuwonetsa motalika kokwanira kuti akuyenera kuphethira ndiye kuti anyamata mutha kuphethira ndi digito, "ndipo Ken ali ngati izi. Kotero kunali mgwirizano wabwino. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti zabwino zamtunduwu ndi mukakhala nazo ziwiri. M'menemo muli munthu wamatsenga Pan's Labyrinth ndi Pale Man, amenewo ndi zodzoladzola zabwino koma pali zinthu za digito zomwe zimakhudzidwa monga kutulutsa miyendo kapena kuwapangitsa kukhala ochepetsetsa pang'ono kapena chilichonse. Tsoka ilo, makamaka pachiyambi, aliyense amangokankhira ndalama zonse mu digito. Ndipo kotero mungakhale ndi mawonetsero ambiri omwe anali ndi zotsatira zoyipa za digito.

BS: Kodi nchifukwa ninji mukufuna kupanga chinthu chomwe chimawononga ndalama zambiri kuti chiwoneke choyipa kuposa kale?

WB: Chinthu chimodzi chimene sindimakonda pa zinthu za digito, n'chakuti anthu sayenera kudzipereka. Munapanga zomwezo zomwe munawombera, kotero munayenera kusankha, ndipo munayenera kudzipereka ku chinachake ndipo ngakhale ndi zodzoladzola zomwe munayenera kuzipanga kuti mupangidwe ndikuzimanga kuti mukhale nazo. Tsopano ndi zinthu za digito. Inu mwangopeza mnyamatayo mu zoyenda kujambula pajamas, ndiyeno inu mukhoza kusintha mapangidwe mobwerezabwereza mpaka inu basi kutha nthawi ndi zinthu ayenera kukhala mu zisudzo. 

Pamene ndinali kugwira ntchito nkhondo Civil, tikumenyana ndi bwalo la ndege. Ndipo aka kanali koyamba kuwona MCU Spider Man. Chovalacho chinali chosiyana kwambiri ndi zomwe zili mufilimuyi. Zomwezo ndi Black Panther, ndikuganiza kuti suti yake inali yofanana, koma kusweka kwawiri komwe adavala kunali kosiyana kwambiri ndi Chadwick. Chifukwa chake onsewa angosinthidwa mwadongosolo la digito muzotsatira zomalizazi ndipo ndichifukwa choti sanayenera kudzipereka kupanga suti yabwino ya Spider Man tisanajambule, chifukwa tikhala ndi chaka cholemba ndipo timapita. sinthani izo. Pali zodabwitsa zomwe mungachite nazo. Pali zinthu zomwe simungathe kuchita kapena kukumasulani. Ndipo ine ndikuganiza izo ndi zokongoletsa chabe wotsogolera. 

Monga zomwe Guillermo del Toro amakonda. Iye anachokera ku zodzoladzola zotsatira maziko kotero iye amakonda kuona practicals, ngakhale akadali ndi zambiri ozizira digito zinthu muwonetsero, nayenso, koma osachepera iye ali bwino bwino. Pamene mukuchita alendo ndi zilombo, mwachiwonekere zinthu za digito zimapereka zinthu, basi anatomically mungathe kuchita zinthu zomwe simungathe kuchita ndi mutu waumunthu, koma pamene mukuchita zilembo ndi zaka zodzikongoletsera ndi zinthu monga choncho, ngati inu ' ndili ndi wosewera yemwe ali wokonzeka kuchita izi, monga Gary Oldman mu The Darkest Hour, ndiye mutha kupeza zinthu zodabwitsa kwambiri. Choncho pali ntchito ina yaikulu imene ikuchitika.

BS: Ndazindikira m'zaka 10 zapitazi, chidwi chowonjezereka pazochitika zenizeni makamaka kuchokera kumalingaliro amalingaliro. Kodi mwawona ojambula atsopano apadera omwe mukuganiza kuti ndi ochititsa chidwi masiku ano? 

WB: Ndizodabwitsa kuti pali anthu padziko lonse lapansi omwe akuchita izi. Monga ndangowona chatsopano Elvis filimuyo ndi zodzoladzola za Tom Hanks, Colonel Parker ndizabwino kwambiri. Kazu yemwe ndimagwira naye ntchito kubwerera The Grinch. Iye anatero The Darkest Hour ndi Bombshell. Ndinagwira ntchito ndi Arjen Tuiten yemwe anachita Wodabwitsa, anatero Maleficent. Iye anachita chatsopano Ghostbusters. Vincent Van Dyke, amachita zodabwitsa. Pali Mike Marino pagombe lakum'mawa. Iye anachita chatsopano Kubwera 2 America kuyambira zaka zingapo zapitazo. Ndinatero Agogo oyipa ndi Steve Prody ndipo moyenerera adasankhidwa kukhala Oscar pa izi. Ndipo kachiwiri, sikulinso masewera a anyamata. Pali akazi ambiri aluso omwe amachitanso izi. 

Pali mibadwo yambiri yabwino yomwe ikubwera. Ambiri a m'nthawi yanga adapuma pantchito kapena akuyang'ana zopuma. Ndangodya kumene chakudya chamasana ndi Rick Baker lero ndipo wapuma pantchito kwa zaka zisanu ndi zitatu tsopano ndipo kotero, ndizolimbikitsa kudziwa kuti pali mafunde a anthu omwe akubwera kumbuyo kwanga kuti apitirize. 

BS: Kodi muli ndi mapulojekiti atsopano abwino omwe akubwera omwe mumawakonda? 

WB: Chabwino, ndinangogwira ntchito osati kokha Guardians of the Galaxy 3, koma tchuthi chapadera chomwe chidzakhala nthawi ya Khrisimasi. Ndangogwira ntchito yatsopano Nyumba Yoyendetsedwa zomwe Disney akuchita, zomwe ndikuganiza zikuwoneka bwino. Pali chinthu cha Jeffrey Dahmer chomwe Ryan Murphy akuchita chilombo kuti ndinagwirapo ntchito pang'ono. Izi zituluka chaka chisanathe. Ndinatero Obi-Wan Kenobi, koma izo zatha kale ndipo ndinagwirapo ntchito zatsopano Thor, koma zatuluka tsopano.

BS: Ndi chiyani chomwe mungafune kuchita chomwe simunachitepo?

WB: Ndikukhulupirira ndisanayipachike, ndikadakonda kuchita ngati Mole Man kapena china chake Zozizwitsa Zinayi. Kapena ngati DC ayamba kuchitapo kanthu Milungu Yatsopano, Ndikufuna kupanga zodzikongoletsera za Jack Kirby zolondola za Darkseid.

Palibe ngati chilombo. O, ine sindinayambe ndakhala ndikuchita gill man. Ngati ine ndikanakhoza kokha kuchita izo. Ndagwirapo ntchito pa mafilimu a Freddy. Sindinachitepo kalikonse Friday ndi 13th. Sindinakhalepo munthu wamkulu wa Jason, koma ndachita chiwonetsero changa cha zinthu za Rob Zombie ndi zina. Ndakhala ndi ntchito yabwino, yosiyanasiyana.

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Mixon akugwirabe ntchito muzodzoladzola za FX amapangitsa kupitiliza kwabwino kwa cholowa chake kwazaka zambiri komanso momwe zodzikongoletsera zasinthira. Sizikuwoneka ngati ayima posachedwa, mwinanso. Ngati mukufuna kumva zambiri za njira yake yopanga ndikugwira ntchito pa Pennywise kuchokera ku 1990 IT, sungani maso anu Zopanda nzeru: Nkhani ya IT.