Kutentha kwa Nyanja - yomwe idasewera ku Toronto International Film Festival ngati gawo la pulogalamu yawo ya Discovery - ndikuwunikira kochititsa chidwi kwazinthu zosadziwika zachilengedwe chathu. Zonse zokongola komanso zowopsa, taganizirani chinthu panyanja; mabungwe ena apadziko lapansi komanso paranoia yoopsa ikudutsa Kutentha kwa Nyanja mu mafunde, akugogoda otchulidwa m'mafilimu mozungulira pamene akuyesera kusunga mitu yawo pamwamba pamadzi.

Wolemba / director Neasa Hardiman wapambana mphoto zingapo chifukwa cha zolemba zake komanso ntchito yakanema. Amubweretsera chidwi chenicheni Kutentha kwa Nyanja, Kupanga kanema yochokera pansi pamtima komanso yowona kwambiri. Ndinali ndi mwayi wolankhula ndi Hardiman za kudzoza, zikhulupiriro, mantha aku Ireland, komanso azimayi omwe ali mufilimu.

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Kelly McNeely: Kodi chibadwa cha Kutentha kwa Nyanja? Kodi lingaliro ili lidachokera kuti? 

Neasa Hardiman: Ndikuganiza kuti chimodzi mwazinthu zomwe ndimafuna kuchita, ndikuti ndikufuna kunena nkhani yomwe idalipo, yomwe idalola kuwunika kwamakhalidwe komanso yomwe inali ndi nkhani yoyendetsa yomwe ingakupangitseni kutsamira pampando wanu. Chifukwa chake zinali zofunika kwambiri kwa ine. 

Ndinkafuna kunena nkhani yokhudza wasayansi, komwe wasayansi amatsogolera. Ndikuganiza kuti izi zinali zofunikanso. Chifukwa ndimamva ngati wasayansi nthawi zambiri amakhala ngati wammbali komanso wamakhalidwe pang'ono, ndipo nthawi zambiri ngati siwosangalatsa, wosakhazikika. Chifukwa chake ndimafuna kuyika chiwerengerocho patsogolo ndi pakatikati, ndikupita, tiyeni tingopeza kuti ndi chiyani komanso komwe chikhalidwe chachilendocho chidachokera.

KM: Ndimakonda izi ndi wasayansi yemwe ali patsogolo, chifukwa m'malo mokhala wankhondo "tiyeni tiphe chinthu ichi," akufuna kwambiri kuti aphunzire ndikuchisunga chamoyo ndikuchiyang'anira, zomwe ndikuganiza kuti ndi lingaliro labwino kwambiri.

NH: O waluntha! Ndi chinthu chachitatu chimenecho, sichoncho? Gawo lachitatu loyembekezeredwa mufilimu ngati iyi limakhala "kuthamangitsa-kumenya-kumenya-kumenya nkhondo-imfa" [kuseka]. Ndipo ndichinthu chomwe ndimachidziwa bwino. Ndimakumbukira nditawona David Hare - wolemba zenera - ndipo adati kwenikweni kanema ndi nkhani zitatu. Muli ndi nkhani poyambira yomwe imakhotera kumanzere, ndipo mumapeza nkhani yosiyananso ndi yachiwiriyo, kenako nkukhala gawo lachiwiri lakumanzere ndikupeza nkhani yachitatu mchigawo chachitatu. Anati makanema ambiri amangokhala ndi nkhani ziwiri chifukwa ndi kwenikweni zovuta [kuseka]. 

Ndinaganiza, chabwino, chabwino ndikulabadira izi ndipo sitingachite kuti tithamangitse kumenya nkhondo, tichitanso chinthu chachitatu pazinthu zina, ndipo zikuyenera kukhala kutenga udindo, ziyenera kukhala za mutu wankhani wokulirapo wa nkhaniyi. 

Chifukwa chake chachitatu chikuyenera kukhala kutenga udindo wanyama yomwe yafika mwangozi mlengalenga; safuna kukhala pamenepo, samafuna kuti izikhala ilipo, ndipo ayenera kutulutsa. Ndipo pali udindo pazomwezi. Ndipo mwachiwonekere kumapeto kwenikweni kwa nkhaniyi ndikufunanso kutenga udindo pazomwe zidachitika kwa Siobhan, ndipo akuyenera kuchita zabwino pamapeto pake. 

KM: Inenso ndimakonda kutha. Kawirikawiri si chikhalidwe chachikazi chomwe chimakhala ndi nthawi zabwino, nthawi zambiri ndimakhalidwe achimuna, monga "O, ndikupulumutsa tsikuli". Chifukwa chake ndimakonda kuti amatha kulowa munjira yokongola komanso yathanzi. Ndikuganiza kuti ndizosangalatsa kwambiri.

NH: Zabwino! [kuseka]

KM: Palinso zowoneka modabwitsa momwemo, zowopsa zina zamthupi. Kodi mudagwiritsa ntchito zovuta zake kapena makamaka CGI? 

NH: Zambiri ndi CG, ndipo tidali ndi ana achidwi anzeru kwambiri kotero pali kuwombera komwe kuli nyama zazing'ono zomwe zikuyenda mozunguliramo, ndipo zonsezo zimakhalako patsiku lopangidwa ndi udzu wam'madzi wokhala ndi ma iron pang'ono zojambulidwa ndi wochita zidole pansi pa sinki ndi maginito [akuseka]. Kotero izo zinali zosangalatsa kwenikweni. Ndipo achidolewo adapanganso zolengedwa zam'nyanja, ma tendro awo. Komanso tinali ndimapangidwe owopsa a CG; Alex Hansson adapanga zithunzi zonse zazikulu, zokongola, zamagetsi.

KM: Pali mitu yayikulu mu Kutentha kwa Nyanja ndi banja, chilengedwe, kudzipereka, zikhulupiriro za panyanja… kodi mitu ikutanthauza chiyani kwa inu, ndipo mumafuna kutulutsa chiyani mufilimuyi ndi mitu imeneyi?

NH: Zowonadi zomwe zinali zosangalatsa kwa ine zinali pomwe ndimayamba kuseka kuti ndikufuna kuti nkhaniyi ipite, ndikufuna kuti ikhale bwanji, linali lingaliro la njira yasayansi ndikukhala olingalira bwino. Ndipo ndidaganiza kuti chabwino, ngati mukukankhira monyanyira, kodi kupyola muyeso kwenikweni ndikotani? Ndipo chowopsa kwenikweni ndi kusowa kwa mayanjano. 

Kuti pali mulingo womwe kuganiza kwamatsenga kumandilola kunamizira kuti ndikumvetsetsa zomwe mukuganiza, ndipo mumayesa kuti mumvetsetsa zomwe ndikuganiza, ndipo timalumikizana mwanjira imeneyi, ndipo ndizofunika kwambiri. Pali chikondi chifukwa chimatipangitsa kuti tizisangalala ndi anzathu. Chifukwa chake ndimakhala ndikufufuza za izo, ndikusanthula masitaelo azidziwitso, ndipo zovuta ndi zabwino za mitundu yosiyanasiyana yazidziwitso ndi ziti. 

Ndinaganiza ngati ndiwo mathero amodzi, pomwe mumavomereza kuti gawo la njira yasayansi limakupatsani mwayi wodzichepetsadi pamalo anu padziko lapansi, ndikuvomereza kuti pali zochepa kwambiri zomwe mungakhudze, koma mutha kuwona ndikuyesera kumvetsetsa. Ndiyeno choopsa china ndi chiani? 

Zoopsa zina ndi zamatsenga. Monga momwe ndimagogoda patebulo ndipo zikutanthauza kuti tsoka lomwe ndimalingalira sichingachitike. Chifukwa chake pali chinyengo cholamulirachi, chinyengo ichi chomwe mumayang'anira chilichonse. Ndinaganiza kuti pali zinthu ziwiri zopitilira muyeso zomwe titha kuzifufuza m'nkhaniyi, ndipo lingaliro laphindu loti tikhale omveka bwino pazomwe mungapeze m'malo mwanu komanso njira zasayansi komanso kudzichepetsa komanso kumveka, zitha kukupatsaninso kutali, ndipo ndizopweteka kwambiri. Poyerekeza kuwerenga tanthauzo la chilichonse ndikuganiza kuti, mukudziwa, zamkati zikuwuzani momwe nyengo idzakhalire. Zomwe zikugwirizana kwambiri, koma sizikuthandizani padziko lapansi. 

Ndipo chinthu chosangalatsa chomwe ndidachipeza - ndipo ndichinthu chankhaninkhani kunena - koma mphamvu zochepa zomwe muli nazo pamoyo wanu, ndizotheka kuti mutembenukire kumaganizo amatsenga kuti akupatseni chinyengo chaulamuliro. Ndipo palibe cholakwika ndi izi! Kudumphadumpha kwa chikhulupiriro kumene kuli kopanda nzeru, kosagwirizana ndi malingaliro kungakhale kopindulitsa kwenikweni ndikulimbikitsa ndi kupatsa thanzi, ndipo palibe cholakwika ndi ichi. Ndipo zimatigwirizanitsa. Monga gulu komanso mtundu, timafunikira izi. Tiyenera kukhala ogwirizana ndipo timafunikira miyambo ndipo timafunikira zikhulupiriro zothandizana ndi anthu ena kuti tikhale achimwemwe komanso athanzi. 

Chifukwa chake zinali ngati kuyang'ana mopambanitsa ndikulola mawonekedwe athu apakati omwe amayamba kumapeto amodzi. Koma akumva kuwawa koyambirira kwa nkhaniyi. Akuyesera, koma samangokhala pagulu ndipo ndizovuta kwa iye. Ndipo kuti amulole kuti apite kumalo ammudzi komwe akugawana nawo chakudya ndikugawana chiyanjano ndi anthu kale, ndithudi, mukudziwa, sichitha. Koma ali ndi kulumikizana kwachuma komanso kovomerezeka monga [Kutentha kwa Nyanja] akukula, pomwe nthawi yomweyo amalola kulimba mtima kuti azitha kuyendetsa bwino nkhani yonse. 

KM: Ndazindikira kuti - mowopsya kwambiri ku Ireland - pali mutu waukulu wachilengedwe, ndipo mutu wachilengedwewo ndiwodabwitsa. Kodi mantha ndi chinthu chachikulu momwe ziliri ku America, kapena kodi mtunduwo si waukulu ku Ireland?

NH: Limenelo ndi funso losangalatsa kwambiri. Sindikufuna kupanga zambiri chifukwa ndimawona ngati wopanga makanema aliyense ndi wosiyana, ndipo ndizovuta kuwona kuchokera pachikhalidwe chanu zomwe zikuchitika. Ndikosavuta kuyang'anitsitsa kuchokera kunja ndikuwona zojambula zomwe zimabwera mobwerezabwereza. 

Mzinda waukulu ku Ireland uli ndi anthu 1.5 miliyoni okha, chifukwa chake tiribe malo otukuka kwambiri, ndipo chikhalidwe chaulimi ndi gawo lalikulu m'moyo waku Ireland. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti ndi gulu lachibale ku Ireland; ndife okonda kwambiri mabanja ndipo kulumikizana ndi anthu ena ndikofunikira kwambiri kwa ife, ndipo kukhazikika ndikofunikira kwa ife. 

Pali msoko wachuma ku Ireland komanso nthano, ndipo zambiri ndizoseketsa. Nkhanizi zimakhala zakuda kwambiri! Momwe iwo aliri, ndikuganiza, kudutsa mdziko lapansi zikafika polemba nthano za folkloric. Awa ndi mafanizo a maloto amenewo - osapita kuthengo usiku! Chifukwa chake ndikuganiza kuti zimafotokozera malingaliro aku Ireland.

Ngati mungayang'ane opanga makanema aku Ireland zaka zambiri, nthawi zambiri pamakhala chidwi chaku gothic pantchito. Mukuyang'ana Neil Jordan, zili ngati, Yesu pali gothic [amaseka]. Achinyamata - omwe adawonetsedwa [ku TIFF] zaka ziwiri zapitazo - ali ndi chidwi chofananira cha gothic. Nyanja ya Zima ali ndi chidwi chomwecho cha gothic. Chifukwa chake, eya… Ndikuganiza kuti mwachita china chake [chimaseka].

KM: Kodi mungapereke upangiri wotani kwa omwe akufuna kukhala opanga azimayi?

NH: Ndinganene zinthu zitatu. Ndinganene kuti musapemphe chilolezo, ingochitani. Lankhulani malingaliro anu. Ndipo ngati simukusangalala, nenani choncho. 

Ndikuganiza kuti ndizovuta, komabe. Ndakhala ndikugwira ntchito kwawayilesi yakanema wazaka 20, ndipo nthawi zambiri ndikamayenda, ndimakhala woyang'anira wamkazi woyamba yemwe aliyense wogwira naye ntchito wagwira naye ntchitoyi. Ndizodabwitsa. 

Pali akazi ambiri, ambiri, ambiri mufilimu, ndipo pali akazi ambiri aluso kwambiri mufilimuyi. Ndipo pali akazi ambiri odziwika, anzeru, opambana kwambiri mufilimuyi. Koma powerengera, pali galasi kudenga. Pali kudenga kwa magalasi komwe kuli azimayi ochulukirapo ogwira ntchito pamlingo winawake, ndipo bajeti zikakwera, kuchuluka kwa azimayi kumatsika. Ndipo kumeneko ndiko kusakondera. Ndiye funso ndiloti kodi timathetsa bwanji kukondera? 

Chowonadi ndi chakuti, si vuto lathu lokha. Sitingathetse izi patokha, tikufunikira aliyense kuti athetse vutoli. Si vuto losasunthika - ndi vuto losavuta kuthetsa [kuseka]. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti chinthu chomwe tingachite ndikupitiliza kugwira ntchito, kupitiriza kugwira ntchito. Osapempha chilolezo. Ngati anthu akukudzudzulani, zowonadi mutengereni, lingalirani, tengani, landirani zonyoza, ndikupitilizabe kugwira ntchito. 

KM: Zinakulimbikitsani chiyani Kutentha kwa Nyanja, nanga mumakhudzidwa ndi chiyani mukamapanga kanema?

NH: Limenelo ndi funso lalikulu. Ndikuganiza zambiri komanso zinthu zosiyanasiyana. Ndikuganiza kuti chikhalidwe chanu monga wopanga makanema - monga wopanga, zambiri, ndikutsimikiza mukuvomereza - zikukula bwino, chifukwa simudziwa zomwe zingakusangalatseni, kapena simudziwa mukamagwira ntchito vuto la nkhani zomwe zichitike kuchokera kumbuyo kwa mutu wanu. 

Kudzakhala kuyankhulana komwe mwawerenga, kapena buku lomwe mwawerengapo, kapena china chilichonse chosiyana ndi komwe mukupita, ndizowona ndipo sindinaganizepo choncho kale, koma zimamveka zowona komanso zaumunthu kwa ine ndipo nditha kugwiritsa ntchito chochitikacho kapena mphindi yodabwitsa - kapena chilichonse. Chifukwa chake ndikuganiza kuti ndikofunikira kukhalabe otakata ndikukhala ndi chidwi ndi chilichonse. 

Pachifukwa ichi, ndikuganiza kuti makanema omwe amandikopa kwambiri mwina anali ngati Kufika, Kuwonongedwa, Mlendo, mwachiwonekere… makanema onse A [akuseka]. Ndiwo malo abwino okoma pakati pa olemera, odalirika, owona, osemphana, osanjikiza omwe amamveka kuti ndi okhazikika komanso enieni, komanso chinthu chofanana ndi maloto chomwe mumabweretsa ndikupita, bwanji ngati. Bwanji ngati izi. Koma osalola chinthu chonga malotocho kuti chilowe m'malo, osachilola kuti chikhale chongogundana ndi zowonera zingapo, koma kungoyiyambitsa ngati kuponya mwala m'madzi kuti ziphuphu zonse zikhale zinthu zomwe inu ndikuwonanso. Kotero ilo linali mtundu wa lingaliro.

 

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